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Re: Is the .to (Tonga) domain completely rogue and should be removed?
From: "Roeland M.J. Meyer" <rmeyer () mhsc com>
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 18:27:10 -0700
At 06:35 PM 9/30/98 -0400, Steven J. Sobol wrote:
On Wed, Sep 30, 1998 at 04:19:44PM -0500, Jeremy Porter wrote:Not that I would advocate such activity, but unless there exists an extradition treaty that allows for computer trespass or denial of service attacks, I imagine that a few weeks of being hacked and DoS attacks would have them reconsidering the fee's that they charge to spam houses.I hope you're kidding. This statement is an order of magnitude dumber than anything Barry's contributed to this thread.
Agreed! SPAM-L has determined, over years of operation (including getting CyberPromo busted out of Agis), that the most effective policy is reasonable complaint, followed by blackholing (a la RBL). Any "Cracker" or DoS attacks simply open you up for criminal charges and actually place the spam-haus in a favorable light wrt LEOs. They then become the "oh so innocent and helpless" victim. Also, there are a lot of TO SLDs that aren't spam-hauses. The normal SPAM complaint process to their upstream providers usually does the trick, regardless of what domain they're in. ___________________________________________________ Roeland M.J. Meyer, ISOC (InterNIC RM993) e-mail: <mailto:rmeyer () mhsc com>rmeyer () mhsc com Internet phone: hawk.mhsc.com Personal web pages: <http://www.mhsc.com/~rmeyer>www.mhsc.com/~rmeyer Company web-site: <http://www.mhsc.com/>www.mhsc.com/ ___________________________________________ I bet the human brain is a kludge. -- Marvin Minsky
Current thread:
- Re: Is the .to (Tonga) domain completely rogue and should be removed?, (continued)
- Re: Is the .to (Tonga) domain completely rogue and should be removed? Sam Hayes Merritt, III (Sep 30)
- Re: Is the .to (Tonga) domain completely rogue and should be removed? Dan Hollis (Sep 30)
- Re: Is the .to (Tonga) domain completely rogue and should be removed? scott w (Sep 30)
- Re: Is the .to (Tonga) domain completely rogue and should be removed? Barry Shein (Sep 30)
- Re: Is the .to (Tonga) domain completely rogue and should be removed? Steven J. Sobol (Sep 30)
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- Re: Is the .to (Tonga) domain completely rogue and should be removed? Jay R. Ashworth (Sep 30)
- Re: Is the .to (Tonga) domain completely rogue and should be removed? Steven J. Sobol (Sep 30)
- Re: Is the .to (Tonga) domain completely rogue and should be removed? Steven J. Sobol (Sep 30)
- Re: Is the .to (Tonga) domain completely rogue and should be removed? Roeland M.J. Meyer (Sep 30)
- Re: Is the .to (Tonga) domain completely rogue and should be removed? Jeremy Porter (Sep 30)
- Re: Is the .to (Tonga) domain completely rogue and should be removed? Steven J. Sobol (Sep 30)