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Re: BBN Peering issues
From: Hank Nussbacher <hank () ibm net il>
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1998 22:34:14 +0200
On Thu, 13 Aug 1998, Jay R. Ashworth wrote:
What I would like more than anything right now is some official word from high-up's at BBN regarding what this policy entails exactly, and what their rationale is behind it.Based on just that little slice of the conversation, is BBN doing what UUnet apparently failed in _it's_ attempt to do last fall, to Jack Rickard's (and my) vast amusement?
Now it all fits in to something I didn't quite understand 2 weeks ago. I consult for a university network planning the purchase of a T3 to the Chicago NAP for access to StarTap and Internet-2. Part of the cost planning is finding Internet-1 access via an ATM VC of 8Mb. I sent around to a number of major ISPs at the Chicago NAP asking to *pay* for full peering at the Chicago NAP via an 8Mb VC. A number of them came back with good answers. But BBN's sales droids indicated very clearly that they will not peer with me unless I purchase the line into the NAP from them:
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 11:34:33 -0500 Organization: GTE Internetworking We will allow the peering if you get the lines from us. So if you order the T3 through GTE Internetworking, you can peer with us at a NAP. Where are you getting the T3 from now? -----Original Message----- From: Hank Nussbacher [SMTP:hank () ibm net il] Sent: Saturday, July 18, 1998 1:25 PM To: xxxxx Subject: RE: T3s On Fri, 17 Jul 1998, xxxxx wrote: Even to pay you won't allow a university to peer with you at a NAP?! -HankHank, we only do private peering with telco companies. The only way todo the peering you want to do with us is to order the T3 through us.
Needless to say, they are now off my short list. Tis a shame though. The BBN NOC is by far the most responsive I have seen. When sending our Smurf complaints to UUnet, MCI, Sprint, BBN, etc., I will usually get 5 responses in 24 hours from their NOC (different people). The others just send an automated trouble ticket and I never hear from them again. Hank
Current thread:
- Re: BBN Peering issues, (continued)
- Re: BBN Peering issues Scott Huddle (Aug 14)
- Re: BBN Peering issues Owen DeLong (Aug 14)
- Re: BBN Peering issues Owen DeLong (Aug 14)
- Re: BBN Peering issues Patrick W. Gilmore (Aug 15)
- Re: BBN Peering issues Sean M. Doran (Aug 14)
- Re: BBN Peering issues steve (Aug 14)
- Re: BBN Peering issues Sean M. Doran (Aug 14)
- Re: BBN Peering issues Matt Sommer (Aug 14)
- FW: BBN Peering issues Lawrence A. Deleski (Aug 14)
- Re: BBN Peering issues Sean Donelan (Aug 14)
- Re: BBN Peering issues Hank Nussbacher (Aug 15)
- RE: BBN Peering issues Goldstein_William (Aug 16)
- RE: BBN Peering issues Goldstein_William (Aug 16)
- Re: BBN Peering issues Karl Denninger (Aug 16)
- Re: BBN Peering issues Henry Linneweh (Aug 16)
- Re: BBN Peering issues Michael Shields (Aug 16)
- Re: BBN Peering issues Mark Tripod (Aug 17)
- Re: BBN Peering issues Michael Shields (Aug 16)
- Re: BBN Peering issues Tracy J. Snell (Aug 17)
- Re: BBN Peering issues Vadim Antonov (Aug 18)