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Re: Foiled terror plot aboard Northwest Flight 253 sparks strict security rules for air passengers
From: chris () blask org
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 11:40:13 -0800 (PST)
--- On Sun, 12/27/09, der Mouse <mouse () rodents-montreal org> wrote:
While I know it isn't true of me personally, I feel sure it is true of some fraction of IT-sec people (though I also suspect that fraction is quite small) but is it true of the industry? I don't know.
The numbers are IM(not)HO small enough that the point is irrelevant. Does the industry "create viruses to create business" (as I have been asked innumerable times)? No.
Organizations often exhibit epiphenomenal behaviour very different from and not directly traceable to the behaviours of the individuals making them up.
I think you have to stray into theology or at least philosophy to have a realistic basis for this point. It's somewhere in the realm of "There is no such thing as altruism, the Actor always performs the Act for their own selfish purpose." Even if 'true' it makes no difference.
Even if restricted to "the West", I doubt that's so; there are enough soldiers that I feel reasonably sure there are at least a few who really don't much care either way -
Same as above. (and "Hindmost" is capitalized... ;~)
and substantially more, enough to speak of them as a fraction rather than a count of invidivuals, who just want him dead and justice (FWVO "justice") take the hindmost.
A smart grunt knows that - however much satisfaction there would be in shooting bin Laden - having him die in a cell of advanced old age (after a few decades on a heart-lung machine) is much better. -chris _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
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