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Re: Foiled terror plot aboard Northwest Flight 253 sparksstrict security rules for air passengers
From: "Tomas L. Byrnes" <tomb () byrneit net>
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 09:51:02 -0800
-----Original Message----- From: funsec-bounces () linuxbox org [mailto:funsec-bounces () linuxbox org] On Behalf Of Paul Ferguson Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2009 10:48 PM To: chris () blask org Cc: funsec () linuxbox org Subject: Re: [funsec] Foiled terror plot aboard Northwest Flight 253 sparksstrict security rules for air passengers -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 10:01 PM, <chris () blask org> wrote:
--- On Sat, 12/26/09, Buhrmaster, Gary <gtb () slac stanford edu> wrote:And that rule is that passengers (and crew) will no longer sit quietly when threatened.The attack model has changed. Getting up and saying "Everyone stay in your seats!" is a non-starter, no-one is hijacking a plane again. The fact is that this loser would have succeeded if he had built his
bomb
better. Security will/should adjust to try to the threat - expect
more
sensors and sniffers and more attention on information management. But messaging is more important than actual security. People have to remember that as of now you remain more likely to die in an airplane *accident* than you do in an extremist attack, and in any case you are more likely to be struck by a passing car while crossing the street. It's like getting network security to the point where a bad power
supply
is a bigger threat. Terrorism isn't about results, it's about sowing FUD. The best sign
in
my eyes is that CNN covered a college football coach quitting today instead of spending the entire day on this story. And the Iranian protests, too - now there's a much more significant story.
Schneier: "Only one carry on? No electronics for the first hour of flight? I wish that, just once, some terrorist would try something that you can only foil by upgrading the passengers to first glass [sic] and giving them free drinks." http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2009/12/separating_expl.html I love that. :-) - - ferg More security theater. _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
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- Re: Foiled terror plot aboard Northwest Flight 253 sparks strict security rules for air passengers, (continued)
- Re: Foiled terror plot aboard Northwest Flight 253 sparks strict security rules for air passengers Tomas L. Byrnes (Dec 26)
- Re: Foiled terror plot aboard Northwest Flight 253 sparks strict security rules for air passengers Paul Ferguson (Dec 26)
- Re: Foiled terror plot aboard Northwest Flight 253 sparks strict security rules for air passengers Tomas L. Byrnes (Dec 27)
- Re: Foiled terror plot aboard Northwest Flight 253 sparks strict security rules for air passengers Valdis . Kletnieks (Dec 27)
- Re: Foiled terror plot aboard Northwest Flight 253 sparks strict security rules for air passengers Tomas L. Byrnes (Dec 27)
- Re: Foiled terror plot aboard Northwest Flight 253 sparks strict security rules for air passengers der Mouse (Dec 27)
- Re: Foiled terror plot aboard Northwest Flight 253 sparks strict security rules for air passengers chris (Dec 27)
- Re: Foiled terror plot aboard Northwest Flight 253sparks strict security rules for air passengers Tomas L. Byrnes (Dec 27)
- Re: Foiled terror plot aboard Northwest Flight 253 sparks strict security rules for air passengers chris (Dec 26)
- Re: Foiled terror plot aboard Northwest Flight 253 sparks strict security rules for air passengers Paul Ferguson (Dec 26)
- Re: Foiled terror plot aboard Northwest Flight 253 sparksstrict security rules for air passengers Tomas L. Byrnes (Dec 27)
- Re: Foiled terror plot aboard Northwest Flight 253 sparksstrict security rules for air passengers Alex Eckelberry (Dec 28)
- Re: Foiled terror plot aboard Northwest Flight253 sparksstrict security rules for air passengers Larry Seltzer (Dec 28)
- Re: Foiled terror plot aboard Northwest Flight 253 sparks strict security rules for air passengers Valdis . Kletnieks (Dec 27)
- Re: Foiled terror plot aboard Northwest Flight 253 sparks strict security rules for air passengers chris (Dec 27)
- Re: Foiled terror plot aboard Northwest Flight 253 sparks strict security rules for air passengers Paul M Moriarty (Dec 26)
- Re: Foiled terror plot aboard Northwest Flight 253 sparksstrict security rules for air passengers Tomas L. Byrnes (Dec 26)
- Re: Foiled terror plot aboard Northwest Flight 253 sparksstrict security rules for air passengers Paul Ferguson (Dec 26)
- Re: Foiled terror plot aboard Northwest Flight 253 sparksstrict security rules for air passengers Tomas L. Byrnes (Dec 27)