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Re: Foiled terror plot aboard Northwest Flight 253 sparksstrict security rules for air passengers


From: "Tomas L. Byrnes" <tomb () byrneit net>
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 09:51:02 -0800



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To: chris () blask org
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Subject: Re: [funsec] Foiled terror plot aboard Northwest Flight 253
sparksstrict security rules for air passengers

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On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 10:01 PM,  <chris () blask org> wrote:

--- On Sat, 12/26/09, Buhrmaster, Gary <gtb () slac stanford edu> wrote:

And that rule is that passengers (and crew) will no longer
sit quietly when threatened.

The attack model has changed.  Getting up and saying "Everyone stay in
your seats!" is a non-starter, no-one is hijacking a plane again.

The fact is that this loser would have succeeded if he had built his
bomb
better.  Security will/should adjust to try to the threat - expect
more
sensors and sniffers and more attention on information management.

But messaging is more important than actual security.  People have to
remember that as of now you remain more likely to die in an airplane
*accident* than you do in an extremist attack, and in any case you are
more likely to be struck by a passing car while crossing the street.
It's like getting network security to the point where a bad power
supply
is a bigger threat.

Terrorism isn't about results, it's about sowing FUD.  The best sign
in
my eyes is that CNN covered a college football coach quitting today
instead of spending the entire day on this story.  And the Iranian
protests, too - now there's a much more significant story.


Schneier:

"Only one carry on? No electronics for the first hour of flight? I wish
that, just once, some terrorist would try something that you can only
foil
by upgrading the passengers to first glass [sic] and giving them free
drinks."

http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2009/12/separating_expl.html

I love that. :-)

- - ferg

More security theater.



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