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Re: Foiled terror plot aboard Northwest Flight 253 sparks strict security rules for air passengers
From: Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 17:50:10 -0500
On Sat, 26 Dec 2009 14:29:01 PST, Paul Ferguson said:
"Strict security rules put into place Saturday will require commercial airline passengers to stay in their seats for an hour before landing. The measure was among those imposed by the Transportation Security Administration after a suspected terrorist tried to blow up a Northwest flight from Amsterdam to Detroit."
So the plot was foiled *before* the new rules were put in place, meaning the rules aren't in fact needed to foil the plot in question? A *foiled* plot means the current rules are sufficient. A *successful* plot means we need to re-think our rules. But of course that's real-security thinking, not security-theatre thinking.
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