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Re: RE: [privacy] Frank Rich: Will the Real Traitors Please Stand Up?
From: "Dude VanWinkle" <dudevanwinkle () gmail com>
Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 10:34:01 -0400
On 5/15/06, Fergie <fergdawg () netzero net> wrote:
You know, I had this really long response, but I'll pare it down conisderably. First, to posit the argument that _domestic_ surveillance of U.S. citizens (and, completely bypassing the FISA court in the process as prescribed by law) will somehow put a dent in al-Qaeda is a stretch. Secondly, the "war on terror" is something that is a (in my opinion) a very thin and blurry line which will most probably extend into the infinite future. See also: "war on drugs", etc.
You forgot: Tertiarily, the vast majority of Al Queda was trained by the CIA and US military. These guys arent stupid, well except for that one idiot who tried to set off C4 with a lighter.... Ok, maybe the vast amount of people who are joining up with Al Queda are pretty stupid, but the core threat comes from the CIA trained ones. Tell you what though, if you want to be really safe, let me lock you and your family in a box and do body cavity searches daily. That is the only way I can guarantee your safety. I know its a little much to ask, but for the safetly of your children, you have to acquiesce. -JP
I think people can decide for themselves how, or how not, this either helps or hurts. Cheers, - ferg -- "Henderson, Dennis K." <Dennis.Henderson () umb com> wrote: [snip] In a time of war, leaks like this that really aren't telling the public anything new(CALEA is a 90's thing), and are only published to make the current administration look bad. The real damage to us all is telling the terrorist something they may have not considered previously(remember, we're not dealing with a bunch of tactical geniuses here). [snip] -- "Fergie", a.k.a. Paul Ferguson Engineering Architecture for the Internet fergdawg () netzero net or fergdawg () sbcglobal net ferg's tech blog: http://fergdawg.blogspot.com/ _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
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Current thread:
- RE: [privacy] Frank Rich: Will the Real Traitors Please Stand Up? Fergie (May 15)
- Re: RE: [privacy] Frank Rich: Will the Real Traitors Please Stand Up? Dude VanWinkle (May 15)
- RE: RE: [privacy] Frank Rich: Will the Real Traitors PleaseStand Up? StyleWar (May 15)
- Re: RE: [privacy] Frank Rich: Will the Real Traitors PleaseStand Up? Dude VanWinkle (May 15)
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- RE: RE: [privacy] Frank Rich: Will the Real Traitors Please Stand Up? Brian Azzopardi (May 15)