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RE: Old school applications on the Internet(was Anti-MS drivel)
From: "Bill Royds" <full-disclosure () royds net>
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 21:04:23 -0500
Microsoft networking originally did not use TCP/IP at all, but a LAN protocol called NetBEUI based on Mac addresses and the NetBIOS machine names. It was a broadcast protocol only working in a single broadcast domain (no routing). It was not compatible with any other machine. That is one reason that Novell was able to become established in networking. When Microsoft adapted that for TCP/IP, they basically put a TCP/IP packet header in front of the NetBEUI data. WINS was a method of allowing the machines to communicate beyond a single Ethernet broadcast segment by turning a NetBIOS Machine name in to an IP address not just a MAC address. When Windows was originally designed, it could NOT communicate with a Macintosh or a Unix box, unless they had added software/hardware to make them compatible with the NetBEUI protocol. -----Original Message----- From: full-disclosure-admin () lists netsys com [mailto:full-disclosure-admin () lists netsys com] On Behalf Of Gregh Sent: January 22, 2004 1:25 AM To: Bill Royds; 'Michal Zalewski'; 'yossarian' Cc: '[Full Disclosure]' Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Old school applications on the Internet(was Anti-MS drivel) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Royds" <full-disclosure () royds net> To: "'Michal Zalewski'" <lcamtuf () ghettot org>; "'yossarian'" <yossarian () planet nl> Cc: "'[Full Disclosure]'" <full-disclosure () lists netsys com> Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 12:34 PM Subject: RE: [Full-disclosure] Old school applications on the Internet(was Anti-MS drivel)
What you describe is actually one of the reasons for some of the flaws in MS software. It was built with the assumption that the only machines on
the
network that it would communicate with were other MS boxes. The network
was Can you verify that claim somewhere I can read about that please? So far as I am aware, any machine on a network conforms to protocols for networking, not to OS applications' ideas which may not be networking protocol compliant. Therefore, a MAC on a network can share files with an MS based PC or a Unix based PC. I say this facetiously of course but here goes - "Am I wrong?" Greg. _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
Current thread:
- RE: [inbox] Re: Anti-MS drivel, (continued)
- RE: [inbox] Re: Anti-MS drivel Curt Purdy (Jan 18)
- RE: [inbox] Re: Anti-MS drivel joe (Jan 18)
- RE: [inbox] Re: Anti-MS drivel joe (Jan 18)
- Re: [inbox] Re: Anti-MS drivel Valdis . Kletnieks (Jan 18)
- Re: Anti-MS drivel Ron DuFresne (Jan 20)
- Re: Anti-MS drivel Michal Zalewski (Jan 20)
- RE: Old school applications on the Internet (was Anti-MS drivel) Bill Royds (Jan 20)
- Re: Old school applications on the Internet(was Anti-MS drivel) Gregh (Jan 21)
- RE: Old school applications on the Internet(was Anti-MS drivel) Steve Wray (Jan 21)
- Re: Old school applications on the Internet(was Anti-MS drivel) Valdis . Kletnieks (Jan 22)
- RE: Old school applications on the Internet(was Anti-MS drivel) Bill Royds (Jan 23)
- Re: Old school applications on the Internet (was Anti-MS drivel) Nico Golde (Jan 22)
- Re: Anti-MS drivel yossarian (Jan 20)
- Re: Anti-MS drivel Lee (Jan 18)
- Re: Anti-MS drivel brenda (Jan 18)