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RE: Who's to blame for malicious code?


From: Steve Wray <steve.wray () paradise net nz>
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 20:43:49 +1300

[mailto:full-disclosure-admin () lists netsys com] On Behalf Of 
Paul Schmehl
[snip]
We expect people to change the oil in their cars regularly.  
Why don't we expect similar behavior in the computer world?

Would you blame OpenBSD if a user got hacked because he 
hadn't bothered to patch?

The car analogy is a good one I think, to an extent.

Something that I'm looking into at the moment are better ways
to manage computer systems (see www.infrastructures.org)

I think that the way we generally build and maintain computers today is
a lot like the way that cars were built and maintained in the days
before Henry Ford; each one is largely hand-build and maintained by
craftsmen (ok, crafts *people*).

There are ways to roll out identical builds and there are a few systems,
largely still under development, for maintaining numbers of machines
en-masse, but this really is in its infancy.

The IT trade needs to grow up a bit.

I fear that one of the problems in the IT industry, is that lots of
sysadmins are very *very* keen. They are hard working. They typically
*love* fixing computer problems.

Thats the problem.

They love fixing computer problems *so* much that they don't mind
when computers go wrong. They love it, especially the hands-on approach,
which is where all the time goes; manually logging in and editing files,
etc.

Me? I *hate* fixing computers. I am lazy as hell.
So I try to make sure that they *don't* go wrong in the first place.

Admins who leave it till something goes wrong and then *gleefuly* fix
it up are the bane of my existance.
;)


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