Re: Ethics, morality and the industry

["Adrian Grigorof" <adrian () grigorof com>]

The difference between the rap performes and the Abagnale/Mitnick due is
that indeed "they" were their "bitch". However, Abagnale and Mitnick were
stupid (or greedy) enough to get caught but who knows how many are still
enjoying freedom and anonymity... We do need this kind of people to shed
some light on how the black hats think and work. Comparing with other type
of crimes I would say that they do deserve another chance (a chance, not a
reward). Personally, I consider the spammers worse criminals than the two
mentioned above!

Adrian Grigorof
www.firegen.com

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Marcus J. Ranum" <mjr () ranum com>
To: <MHawkins () TULLIB COM>; <paul () compuwar net>;
<firewall-wizards () honor icsalabs com>
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2004 4:42 PM
Subject: RE: [fw-wiz] Ethics, morality and the industry


> MHawkins () TULLIB COM wrote:
> > Apart from Hollywood, what other group can you think of that rewards such
> > behavior with notoriety, kudos and appearance fees?
>
> Rap/Hip-Hop
>
> If you've ever heard Abagnale talk, or read Mitnick's book, the
> theme is pretty much, "y0, you my bitch!"     I don't think their
> message is a whole lot more sophisticated than the gangstas,
> and they haven't got anywhere near the rythm or flow.
>
> mjr.
>
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