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Re: concerning ~el8 / project mayhem
From: Dave Piscitello <dave () corecom com>
Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2002 12:55:14 -0400
I don't get this.If I showed my client that they'd been victim to 25 vulnerabilities, and the cumulative cost of the exploits was $6.4M, I'd get his attention fast.
I think the point you might make is that it's comforting for a client who has no security clue to see a large report showing all the many problems his company had *before* you audited its network, and then showing that same client a very much smaller list showing the results of your tireless effort to eliminate the vulnerabilites through patching and re-configuration.
"It was dangerous and now it's safe" is much easier for a 3rd party to sell than it is for a security insider to sell "The reason we haven't had an incident in the past 6 months is because we've used our copious security budget to keep the network safe"
At 03:13 AM 8/18/2002 -0400, Paul D Robertson wrote:
Showing that there were 2,500 new vulnerabilities last year gets people budgetsfor security, showing 25 of them actually being used doesn't.
David M. Piscitello Core Competence, Inc. & 3 Myrtle Bank Lane Hilton Head, SC 29926 dave () corecom com 843.689.5595 www.corecom.com _______________________________________________ firewall-wizards mailing list firewall-wizards () honor icsalabs com http://honor.icsalabs.com/mailman/listinfo/firewall-wizards
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