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Re: concerning ~el8 / project mayhem
From: Barney Wolff <barney () tp databus com>
Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2002 11:49:05 -0400
Are you actually capable of evaluating a cardiologist's professional skills? I'm not - I'd have to go by reputation and my own general impression, which is certainly colored by whether doctors follow their own advice. If we're going to quote adages, I'll take "Charity begins at home." But seriously, I think a security expert owes it to the clients to follow the same guidelines s/he's touting. Otherwise you lose touch with the impact on the user of what you're prescribing. On Mon, Aug 19, 2002 at 09:16:47AM -0400, Paul D. Robertson wrote:
On Sun, 18 Aug 2002, Barney Wolff wrote:A "recognized security expert" is going to be a target. Price of fame, and all that. Would you trust an overweight cardiologist?Personally, I wouldn't evaluate a cardiologist based on their weight, but on how well they knew cardiology. There's an old saying- "The cobbler's children have no shoes" which isn't explained off by saying that the cobbler makes shoddy shoes- but that he's too busy making shoes for others to have produced them for his own children. Having the data is different than knowning how to evaluate it. Without knowning a cardiologist's skills in cardiology picking metrics and basing an evaulation on them is like choosing a firewall based on the colo[u]r of its box.
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