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Re: Opinions regarding Packeteer Packetshaper & alternatives
From: Mark Poepping <poepping () CMU EDU>
Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 00:03:19 -0400
I imagine it's been a while since this information was circulated, but for those considering hardware bandwidth management appliances such as the packeteer and netenforcer, I refer you to at least one possible alternative, an approach we discussed several years ago at JointTechs: social engineering (it worked as well for us as it does for the bad guys:-). The presentation materials are at: http://www.net.cmu.edu/pres/jt0803/ The site also has our technical comparison of the devices available at the time, we bought a netenforcer and didn't mind it, but engaging the users turned out to be *way* more effective, and we really haven't had a bandwidth problem since. The approach essentially requires that you "tell users" how much bandwidth they're actually using. It requires that you count and account for the usage (we use argus at the egress, but netflow works too - I think Cornell uses netflow for similar purposes, though their method includes actually 'charging'), and as long as you have a way to attribute IP traffic to 'users', you're good to go. The software to implement our mechanism isn't quite available (we just didn't push to publish it), but it's part of the CMU netreg suite (predates the 'other' netreg).. I wish more problems were this 'easy'.. Mark.
Current thread:
- Opinions regarding Packeteer Packetshaper & alternatives Gaddis, Jeremy L. (Oct 24)
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- Re: Opinions regarding Packeteer Packetshaper & alternatives Julian Y. Koh (Oct 24)
- Re: Opinions regarding Packeteer Packetshaper & alternatives Cal Frye (Oct 24)
- Re: Opinions regarding Packeteer Packetshaper & alternatives Justin Dover (Oct 24)
- Re: Opinions regarding Packeteer Packetshaper & alternatives Stephen W. Bradley (Oct 25)
- Re: Opinions regarding Packeteer Packetshaper & alternatives Ramon Hermida (Oct 25)
- Re: Opinions regarding Packeteer Packetshaper & alternatives Mark Poepping (Oct 25)
- Re: Opinions regarding Packeteer Packetshaper & alternatives Paul Younker (Oct 26)
- Re: Opinions regarding Packeteer Packetshaper & alternatives William Green (Oct 26)
- Re: Opinions regarding Packeteer Packetshaper & alternatives Scott Conti (Oct 26)
- Re: Opinions regarding Packeteer Packetshaper & alternatives Cal Frye (Oct 26)
- Re: Opinions regarding Packeteer Packetshaper & alternatives Paul Younker (Oct 31)
- Re: Opinions regarding Packeteer Packetshaper & alternatives Cal Frye (Oct 31)
- Re: Opinions regarding Packeteer Packetshaper & alternatives Paul Younker (Nov 01)
- Re: Opinions regarding Packeteer Packetshaper & alternatives Anthony Maszeroski (Nov 01)
- Re: Opinions regarding Packeteer Packetshaper & alternatives Beechey, Jim (Nov 01)