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Re: smtp redirection
From: Geoff <leboldug () POST QUEENSU CA>
Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 15:57:02 -0400
John wrote:
For those of you who redirect email to an anti-spam device; how are you doing this redirection and how are you dealing with the spammers who circumvent the MX record approach?
We've blocked all inbound 25/tcp, except to a few trusted boxes, for many years. We have one external MX for most departmental servers. we also have a Barracuda cluster for our servers and others who want this kind of service. The generic MX has clam and basic spamblocks on it. Spammers can't circumvent anything this way. Blocking SMTP at your border is the correct way to go. Someone will accidently configure an open relay. We have some arms length groups ( about 3 ) that want 25/tcp open, so we do it, but we watch.
Before changing MX records I set a route map on a router to redirect smtp traffic to the Meridius but the IP destination headers did not have the Meridius address so the appliance dropped the traffic. We run a public class B and do not do NAT.
We are also a class B and do not NAT. Advertise a date for the change. Shorten the DNS TTLs. On that day change the MXs and then block the 25/tcp. Set the TTLs back to normal. You will experience a few external sites that will have trouble sending to you. These will all be badly configured MS Exchange servers that can't cope with MX records. They'll want to be able to connect to the destination IP SMTP port directly. When you speak with their mail admin, you'll find they have no concept of what an MX record is. RTFM is the correct advice to them. ********** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Discussion Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
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- smtp redirection John (May 10)
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- Re: smtp redirection Aaron Childs (May 10)
- Re: smtp redirection Flagg, Martin D. (May 10)
- Re: smtp redirection Graham Toal (May 10)
- Re: smtp redirection Graham Toal (May 10)
- Re: smtp redirection Geoff (May 10)
- Re: smtp redirection Valdis Kletnieks (May 10)
- Re: smtp redirection Valdis Kletnieks (May 10)
- Re: smtp redirection Bruce Hudson (May 10)
- Re: smtp redirection Tom Bossie (May 10)
- Re: smtp redirection Flagg, Martin D. (May 10)
- Re: smtp redirection Graham Toal (May 10)
- Re: smtp redirection Paul Russell (May 10)
- Re: smtp redirection Valdis Kletnieks (May 10)
- Re: smtp redirection Mark Borrie (May 10)
- Re: smtp redirection Valdis Kletnieks (May 10)
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