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RE: CISSP Question
From: "Craig Wright" <Craig.Wright () bdo com au>
Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 07:30:34 +1000
Here is the operative word, "play". Tell me how you simulate an OSPF backbone at home? How do you do random load? ACL testing across multiple zones? Authentication from disparate sources? Multiple VPN's? Switching interactions and VLANs? Maybe it is that I am again not looking at the generalised mean of small business - 20 people, 1 location and a poorly configured Internet router, but than this is not what I would be looking to hire for either. But you have hit the proverbial nail on the head. This is one of the segregations in this discourse. Playing to learn and learning through playing. I personally do not know if it is actually worth the time in reskilling somebody who has played to learn at home to be effective in managing by the rules. I am sure not every one is this way and I apologise in advance to any reader on the list if you feel that I have impugned you throughout this statement. I will state that those staff members I have had in the past (without a single exception) who have solely learnt through playing have been the worst hires I have made. There is a decided distinction between learning and becoming educated and than applying knowledge at home or away from work and buying a router to play with. Not a one has ever decided that the documented method was acceptable. This is not always the book, but rather the organisational method. I have no issues in change, in fact I promote change at all possible occasion. It just has to be managed. This is what I have through personal analogy found to be lacking and the effort to remove the bad habits and instil those that follow a plan are costly. Both in time and effect in the interim. Regards, Craig Craig Wright Manager of Information Systems Direct +61 2 9286 5497 Craig.Wright () bdo com au +61 417 683 914 BDO Kendalls (NSW) Level 19, 2 Market Street Sydney NSW 2000 GPO BOX 2551 Sydney NSW 2001 Fax +61 2 9993 9497 www.bdo.com.au Liability limited by a scheme approved under Professional Standards Legislation in respect of matters arising within those States and Territories of Australia where such legislation exists. The information in this email and any attachments is confidential. If you are not the named addressee you must not read, print, copy, distribute, or use in any way this transmission or any information it contains. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender by return email, destroy all copies and delete it from your system. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and not necessarily endorsed by BDO Kendalls. You may not rely on this message as advice unless subsequently confirmed by fax or letter signed by a Partner or Director of BDO Kendalls. It is your responsibility to scan this communication and any files attached for computer viruses and other defects. BDO Kendalls does not accept liability for any loss or damage however caused which may result from this communication or any files attached. A full version of the BDO Kendalls disclaimer, and our Privacy statement, can be found on the BDO Kendalls website at http://www.bdo.com.au or by emailing administrator () bdo com au. BDO Kendalls is a national association of separate partnerships and entities. -----Original Message----- From: April Carson [mailto:ACarson () HNTB com] Sent: Friday, 11 May 2007 6:55 AM To: Craig Wright; david.a.harley () gmail com; Simmons, James; Yousef Syed Cc: security-basics () securityfocus com Subject: RE: CISSP Question Ugghhh I tired packet Tracer 3.2 and 4.0 and found it annoying. I just went out and got my own Cisco router and am much happier. Of course I also get to play in works data center now and again. -----Original Message----- From: Craig Wright [mailto:Craig.Wright () bdo com au] Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 2:23 PM To: April Carson; david.a.harley () gmail com; Simmons, James; Yousef Syed Cc: security-basics () securityfocus com Subject: RE: CISSP Question Buying a router for home practice would lower your chances if I am in the Interview. First, we have the economics. A router simulator (such as Boson) is less expensive and offers just as much and also maps to Cisco (and other) exams and tutorials. Thus there is a manner of testing the skills. Thus you have not demonstrated a good financial knowledge and thus are less likely to make well informed project decisions. Next a home router is limited to the extreme. It is a single router, OSPF, VRRP etc are not generally feasible. There is no way to learn and understand on a simple home router. You are unlikely to wipe and start again as often. I could go on. A simulator does far more. So this would be the proverbial next the minute you decide to mention it. Regards, Craig
Current thread:
- RE: CISSP Question, (continued)
- RE: CISSP Question Craig Wright (May 09)
- RE: CISSP Question Simmons, James (May 09)
- RE: CISSP Question Craig Wright (May 09)
- Re: RE: CISSP Question null_zero (May 10)
- RE: RE: CISSP Question David Harley (May 10)
- RE: RE: CISSP Question winsoc (May 10)
- RE: RE: CISSP Question Laundrup, Jens (May 10)
- Re: RE: CISSP Question Yousef Syed (May 10)
- RE: RE: CISSP Question David Harley (May 10)
- RE: RE: CISSP Question David Harley (May 10)
- RE: CISSP Question Craig Wright (May 09)
- RE: CISSP Question Craig Wright (May 10)
- RE: CISSP Question Craig Wright (May 10)
- Re: RE: CISSP Question vijay . upadhyaya (May 15)
- RE: CISSP Question Craig Wright (May 16)
- RE: CISSP Question Simmons, James (May 16)