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Re: VLANs confusing


From: Kern <timetrap () gmail com>
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 03:31:10 -0500

1. VLANs do not encrypt ANYTHING
2. VLANs operate on Layer 2 not 3
3. As far as I know, VLAN frames are NOT routable

A Normal Layer 2 frame looks like this:

[----Frame----]

A VLAN frame looks like this:

[-VLAN1-][---Frame---][Footer]

The frame is ENCAPSULATED not ENCRYPTED

As such if someone is expecting a VLAN frame it is very trivial to
de-encapsulate the actual frame data.

VLANs solve little, if any security problems. They should be mainly
used for management purposes.

On 11/12/06, Raj Shaz <rajshas () gmail com> wrote:
Hi group

Few basic stuffs bothering me, thus needed clarification.

All i understand of VLANs is encryption of packets at source and
decryption at destination. Now If at both ends i have cisco
devices,which protocols/ algorithms are used by them?. I have notices
configuration of DAX switches on cisco network the VLANS doesnot work.
Which protocol does these machines should used then?

When two cisco devices are configured for VLANs , we basically make
these devices to transfer key (for en/decryption) ,does these keys has
any relevance with other VLANs?. Is there exists a possibility of key
overlapping on gigantic network ( akin internet ).

Which layer VLANS works, layer 3 right?. Then what do u mean when u
say VLAN enabled layer 2 switches?

Sorry, seems rudimentary stuff. But hope my brain is highlighted with
some wisdom.Some ref to good notes online?

-Raj

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