Re: Down with DHCP!!!!

[Andreas Hell <anhell () gmx de>]

Am Sonntag, den 19.02.2006, 10:34 +0530 schrieb Neil:
> gigabit () satx rr com wrote:
> > ok, some background...
> >
> > i have transfered from network engineering to the information security 
> > group for my company, which is mid-sized with about 2000 employees 
> > across 90 locations (financial).
> >
> > the lessons learned from being in network engineering is that they are 
> > first and foremost concerned with maintaining the production 
> > environment.  the management processes/procedures are completely 
> > disregarded if it is deemed necessary to "get something done".
> >
> > as i try to build out a security plan for how to deal with 
> > servers/routers/end users, i keep coming to the conclusion that it will 
> > be meaningless unless control can be taken over what the other 
> > department is doing (network engineering).  the one commonality for all 
> > devices on the network is that they have an IP address.
> >
> > i would like to propose to management that dhcp should be disabled, so 
> > as to force the building of a database that will hold all of the 
> > information needed to begin a comprehensive security policy.  the 
> > security group would manage the database to ensure that we are 
> > collecting information (such as O/S, IOS version, anti-virus 
> > compliance...)
> >
> > i realize this will incur more work for those poor souls that have to 
> > deploy hardware, but i believe the benefits out-weigh the costs.  the 
> > benefits i see:
> >
> > 1.  once a branch location is staticly addressed, we have a working 
> > inventory of what is out there.
> >
> > 2.  a more secure environment.  no longer can users bring in non-
> > company owned devices and place them on our production network (which 
> > is already a policy---that isn't policed).
> >
> > 3.  i can setup automated scripts that check MAC addresses to IP 
> > addresses on the router ARP tables to check for spoofing.
> >
> > our branch locations don't change very often.....some are still on 
> > token ring for god's sake, so i don't really see that much more 
> > workload.
> >
> > Has anyone else dropped DHCP as a management/compliance decision?
> >
> > thanks.
>
> Well, let me start by saying that dropping DHCP is a teeny tiny step 
> towards making your network more secure: every device that can use DHCP 
> probably has an option to put in manual IPs...so they pick one and 
> assign it, and they're in all the same.
>
> On the other hand, yes, with static IPs, you could assign various 
> permissions by IP, which you couldn't do with DHCP if the addresses 
> changed.  Of course, assigning by IP is about as secure as assigning by 
> hostname (in the sense that if someone could take down the original 
> owner, they could step into that spot and get all associated permissions).

Just a 2p thought:

> My suggestion would be to use DHCP with MAC-based reservations.  

Isn't it right that any wannebe hacksor can easily spoof his/her
mac-address to let it look like an "authorised" one? And wouldn't this
mean that the only barrier to get an IP is to choose/find a correct
mac-address, which might be done by sniffing the network or something
alike? If so, giving away Ips based on mac-addresses doesn't look too
secure to me, does it?

Greets, Andreas

> This 
> would be like static addresses, except that you could manage it 
> centrally (allowing you to change an IP address if you had need for 
> whatever reason), and gives you the convenience of DHCP for visitors or 
> whatnot.  You could also probably rig something to check every IP 
> against its reservation, which would let you see if you had any 
> intruders on the network whose computers automatically grabbed an IP 
> (since everything is automatic these days...).
>
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