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RE: (ip session tracking) Whitepaper "SESSION RIDING - A Widespread Vulnerability in Today's Web Applications"
From: mattyml () bellsouth net
Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2004 20:26:45 -0500 (EST)
On Wed, 22 Dec 2004, Evans, Arian wrote:
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1-----Original Message----- From: Joseph Miller [mailto:joseph () tidetamerboatlifts com] On Monday 20 December 2004 12:17 pm, Elihu Smails wrote:I agree with the comments that there is a problem on the development end that session management is lacking. I am a developer, I can say this.:)Much discussion has been given in this list about tracking a client IP as a method of verifying credentials. It has been determined by the list that this is generally a poor practiceI simply don't understand how this keeps coming up. Anyone who's spent even a brief period of time dealing with state on any enterprise application knows the pitfalls of this. Yet another reason we should be focusing our efforts on documenting proper state and session management.
Have you see any resources that document proper state managment techniques.? I have read numerous various books and white papers, but have yet to find a resource that gets the big picture. Any URLs/Booksyou can post that cover proper session/state management would be beneficial.
If basic issues like IP tracking are still misunderstood by people on *this* list...what's the rest of the world like? While it may be argued that the "session riding" whitepaper stimulated this conversation, the power-point friendly orientation of the web application security industry appears to have created an environment where one is rewarded more for new "vulnerability finds" (e.g.-"Session Castling") than for creating thorough standards and practice documentation. If I am wrong, someone stand up and shout "I'll take Uninformed Opinions for $1000, please", point me to resources I have missed, and I will shutup. Arian -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 8.1 iQA/AwUBQcmyLTw+XG8chAQiEQJGngCcDA1R3NPBd0o1uXnwiN07ky7JVxUAmwVP MKf7R9WBp7jXMS5MkoFWFN2V =nNYx -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- The information transmitted in this e-mail is intended only for the addressee and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any interception, review, retransmission, dissemination, or other use of, or taking of any action upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited by law and may subject them to criminal or civil liability. If you received this communication in error, please contact us immediately at 816.421.6611, and delete the communication from any computer or network system.
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