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Re: DirectX 9 SDK, Microsoft have got balls....


From: Peter Thoenen <pthoenen () uwm edu>
Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 12:30:58 -0500

No..it would be a virus if it didn't warn you and you didn't intentially install it. If you don't like what they are doing, don't install it, Bill doesnt' have a gun to your head. Nobody is forcing you and I bet you (IANAL) that it is perfectly legal. This is much the same way the FrontpageXP warns you that by installing it, you give m$ permission to unistall ANY software on your box they wish. Needless to say, I don't agree, so I didn't install it. Nothing illegal about it though, its a TOS agreement.

-Peter

Chagres Role Account wrote:
I wouldn't leap to the statement the original poster has
a "questionable" copy of the beta.

What I *do* find intersting is that MS is placing code on your
computer that could cause it to NOT FUNCTION and thus cause
financial loss, damages to your own intellectual property and
other bad things.

If this was anyone other than MS, it would be called a VIRUS.


What if the person doesn't want to use Beta 2, or they have
decided to change directions at their company and thus can't
spend the time on Beta 2?   Are you saying then that MS has a
right to nuke a machine and cause a sysadmin to spend time and
money re-installing the software?

Will MS, pay the beta org losses?

hmmm,   I see tort written all over this against MS




-----Original Message-----
From: cami [mailto:camis () mweb co za]
Sent: Monday, May 27, 2002 11:40 AM
To: vuln-dev () securityfocus com
Subject: Re: DirectX 9 SDK, Microsoft have got balls....


| I've got hold of a copy of the DirectX 9 SDK beta. It comes with the interesting warning:
|
| --------------------------------------------
| This beta version expires on Aug 20, 2002. | You will need to reinstall Windows if you do not | have a valid DX9 ID & password to download Beta 2 | --------------------------------------------
|
| Anyone in a position to comment on exactly what Microsoft think they have the right
| to do to an end users PC?

Since when do you have the right to 'get a copy' of DirectX 9
when only official beta testers are suppose to have it?

| Less of a legal argument, more of a technical "what-they-gonna-do". Format c: would be too easy.

DirectX 9 can not be uninstalled, so when the timeout expires
and you are still stuck using it, guess what, your machine wont
boot into Windows XP..
Moral of the story, do not use pirated software if you are going
to complain about the possible aftermath..

Plain and simple, isn't it?




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