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Re: Behavior analysis vs. Integrity analysis [was: Binary Bruteforcing]


From: Lincoln Yeoh <lyeoh () pop jaring my>
Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 10:49:06 +0800

Going through all the input and possible states and all that can be impossible, but when so many programs are so fragile you don't have to - they blow up at the first bend.

Thing is C is such an unfriendly environment we can say an automated program can practically spot 95% of the bugs because 95% of the bugs could have been automatically avoided in the first place - either by some special program, or by using a different language.

Don't have to exploit those 5% high level bugs when you can be root with the 95% right?

That said, many of the web sites out there have the "pass raw cgi parameters to the db" problem. Give a programmer a low level tool and blahblahblah, give a programmer a high level tool and blahblahblah :).

Cheerio,
Link.

At 11:42 AM 28-03-2002 -0500, Michal Zalewski wrote:

To tell how the process is to behave in certain conditions, you have to be
able to predict this behavior, or actually run / go thru the program and
see what happens. And you have to know it for all possible input
perameters. Both approaches, without making significant sacrifices, are
not very feasible for a typical real-life project (say, Sendmail), where



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