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Re: C versus other languages, round 538 or so (Re: CGI scripts in sh)
From: "Bluefish (P.Magnusson)" <11a () GMX NET>
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 09:34:13 +0200
A well experienced C/C++ programmer knows how to avoid the black holes that exist in regards to buffer overflows/unexpected input. All you have to do is to structure and think through your software design thoroughly before you turn your idea into code.
Erm. Yes, in theory. But they still make misstakes in C. Or do you think Linux, BSD, Windows, Solaris etc etc programmers are idiots? C is too dangerous and many faults are made at implementation level. C do require more security audits than other languages, IMHO. Also, I fail to see how most buffer overflows could be a design fault, perhaps you use the word in another sense than the one they've teach in the design courses I've taken.
As for C v. Perl I would choose C. Why? Because Perl is an interpreted language, we don't know if there exists any flaw in the perl interpreter.
As to compared to "you don't know if there is any flaw in the compiler or libraries your c-program use" ? The dependency problem is not really script specific. ..:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::.. http://www.11a.nu || http://bluefish.11a.nu eleventh alliance development & security team http://www.eff.org/cafe
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- C versus other languages, round 538 or so (Re: CGI scripts in sh) Bluefish (P.Magnusson) (Sep 23)
- Re: C versus other languages, round 538 or so (Re: CGI scripts in sh) Jonathan James (Sep 24)
- Re: C versus other languages, round 538 or so (Re: CGI scripts in sh) Bluefish (P.Magnusson) (Sep 25)
- Re: C versus other languages, round 538 or so (Re: CGI scriptsin sh) Jonathan James (Sep 27)
- Re: C versus other languages, round 538 or so (Re: CGI scriptsin sh) Bluefish (P.Magnusson) (Sep 27)
- Re: C versus other languages, round 538 or so (Re: CGI scriptsinsh) Jonathan James (Sep 27)
- Re: C versus other languages, round 538 or so (Re: CGI scriptsinsh) Bluefish (P.Magnusson) (Sep 27)
- Re: C versus other languages, round 538 or so (Re: CGI scriptsinsh) Jonathan James (Sep 28)
- Re: C versus other languages, round 538 or so (Re: CGI scriptsinsh) Reid Nichol (Sep 29)
- Re: C versus other languages, round 538 or so (Re: CGI scriptsinsh) Adam Clarke (Sep 28)
- Re: C versus other languages, round 538 or so (Re: CGI scriptsin sh) Ben Galehouse (Sep 30)
- Re: C versus other languages, round 538 or so (Re: CGI scripts in sh) Ben Galehouse (Sep 27)
- Re: C versus other languages, round 538 or so (Re: CGI scripts in sh) Jonathan James (Sep 27)