Re: v2.8.4 incorrect logging to MySQL

[Shirk Dog <shirkdog_list () hotmail com>]

What about the Zombies???

Shirkdog



Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 16:08:12 -0600
From: cummingsj () gmail com
To: pieter () claassen co uk
CC: loyalmoses () mac com; snort-users () lists sourceforge net; roesch () sourcefire com
Subject: Re: [Snort-users] v2.8.4 incorrect logging to MySQL

I am pretty sure that this clearly states the source will be completely closed... i.e. transcribed into ancient  
Egyptian, sealed with the seal of the Royal Pig, locked in a vault with 10' thick walls.. buried deep within an 
undisclosed NBC facility that has a large detail of highly trained special ops guards on duty...... right?


On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 3:51 PM, pieter claassen <pieter () claassen co uk> wrote:

This is from the license file included in snortsp-3.0.0b3:



* The Snort Security Platform and its included engine module software

* ("Snort") is the copyrighted work  of Sourcefire, Inc. (C) 2007-2008

* Sourcefire, Inc.  All Rights Reserved.  This program is free software; you

* may use, redistribute and/or modify this  software only under the terms

* and conditions of the GNU General Public License as published by the Free

* Software Foundation; Version 2 with the clarifications and exceptions

* described below.

...



Are you saying there is something else happening here?



Pieter



On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 11:06 PM, Loyal A Moses <loyalmoses () mac com> wrote:

>

> Marty,

>

> Do you mean open source as in GPL or equivalent or as in we can all

> read the source?

>

> A quote from you:

>

> "We're also saying that people who want to

> contribute code to the project do so with the knowledge that we're

> going to consider the code as assigned to Sourcefire unless other

> arrangements are made."

>

> That doesn't sound so "open source" to me and more like a charade.

>

> And another quote in the same posting by you:

>

> "Given that we need to be able to offer Snort under an alternative

> license for commercial integrators who are integrating Snort and

> don't want to adhere to the GPL it's essential that we retain the

> right to relicense the totality of the codebase."

>

> Now, there is the real reason.

>

> Just be direct and communicate that version 3 will not be GPL and

> Sourcefire will now retain all rights. Unless you plan on having two

> source branches with zero intellectual-property cross over and

> licensed independently.

>

> I am not hostile towards the concept. The concept is business and it

> is what it is.

>

> Loyal.

>

> On Apr 14, 2009, at 1:40 PM, Martin Roesch wrote:

>

> > Snort 3.0 is open source.

> >

> > Marty

> >

> > On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 4:21 PM, Loyal A Moses <loyalmoses () mac com>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Snort is open source, until version 3. But that is a whole other

> > > argument.

> > > On Apr 14, 2009, at 1:11 PM, Joel Esler wrote:

> > >

> > > No one is taking a vote, we just said, "if we had a vote in it..."

> > > I'd

> > > rather take the code out of the IDS/IPS and put it into an output

> > > module.

> > >  One that is maintained well (as Shawn said).

> > > Snort is an open source program, I don't see harm in discussion on

> > > Snort's

> > > own mailing lists do you?

> > > J

> > >

> > > On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 3:35 PM, Loyal A Moses <loyalmoses () mac com>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Is Sourcefire limited on development skill or man power?

> > > >

> > > > It makes no sense at all to remove one of the most common facilities

> > > > in use by snort users because it is "too complex".

> > > >

> > > > In the end, you'll do what you are going to do regardless of the

> > > > community -- we've seen it before. But don't use "complexity" and

> > > > "bugs" as the excuse.

> > > >

> > > > Sourcefire is a publicly traded company -- Is it smart to be taking

> > > > votes on product development from a mailing list? I wouldn't think

> > > > so.

> > > >

> > > > Loyal.

> > > >

> > > > On Apr 14, 2009, at 11:52 AM, Jason Brvenik wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > I have an ulterior motive and it is simple.

> > > > >

> > > > > Many of the bugs and issues over time with snort have been in

> > > > > output

> > > > > plugins. Make one well supported, tested, unified method designed

> > > > > for

> > > > > best performance and while doing so it improves the

> > > > > supportability and

> > > > > maintainability of the code base.

> > > > >

> > > > > On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 2:39 PM, Loyal A Moses <loyalmoses () mac com>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > My vote is to provide as many output options as possible, to help

> > > > > > keep

> > > > > > snort used as a tool.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The argument of code complexity being a good reason to remove

> > > > > > output

> > > > > > facilities is only valid if the code is written poorly and not

> > > > > > modular. This wheel doesn't need re-invented and this

> > > > > > conversation is

> > > > > > kind of silly, unless there is ulterior motives for actually

> > > > > > wanting

> > > > > > to remove this support.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Loyal.

> > > > > >

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