Re: v2.8.4 incorrect logging to MySQL

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From: loyalmoses () mac com
To: cummingsj () gmail com
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 15:25:29 -0700
CC: snort-users () lists sourceforge net
Subject: Re: [Snort-users] v2.8.4 incorrect logging to MySQL


Was that sarcasm?
Cause I think I might know the facility you are talking about. ;-)
On Apr 14, 2009, at 3:08 PM, JJ Cummings wrote:I am pretty sure that this clearly states the source will be completely 
closed... i.e. transcribed into ancient  Egyptian, sealed with the seal of the Royal Pig, locked in a vault with 10' 
thick walls.. buried deep within an undisclosed NBC facility that has a large detail of highly trained special ops 
guards on duty...... right?
 
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 3:51 PM, pieter claassen <pieter () claassen co uk> wrote:
 This is from the license file included in snortsp-3.0.0b3:
 
 * The Snort Security Platform and its included engine module software
 * ("Snort") is the copyrighted work  of Sourcefire, Inc. (C) 2007-2008
 * Sourcefire, Inc.  All Rights Reserved.  This program is free software; you
 * may use, redistribute and/or modify this  software only under the terms
 * and conditions of the GNU General Public License as published by the Free
 * Software Foundation; Version 2 with the clarifications and exceptions
 * described below.
 ...
 
 Are you saying there is something else happening here?
 
 Pieter
 
 On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 11:06 PM, Loyal A Moses <loyalmoses () mac com> wrote:
> Marty,
>
> Do you mean open source as in GPL or equivalent or as in we can all
> read the source?
>
> A quote from you:
>
> "We're also saying that people who want to
> contribute code to the project do so with the knowledge that we're
> going to consider the code as assigned to Sourcefire unless other
> arrangements are made."
>
> That doesn't sound so "open source" to me and more like a charade.
>
> And another quote in the same posting by you:
>
> "Given that we need to be able to offer Snort under an alternative
> license for commercial integrators who are integrating Snort and
> don't want to adhere to the GPL it's essential that we retain the
> right to relicense the totality of the codebase."
>
> Now, there is the real reason.
>
> Just be direct and communicate that version 3 will not be GPL and
> Sourcefire will now retain all rights. Unless you plan on having two
> source branches with zero intellectual-property cross over and
> licensed independently.
>
> I am not hostile towards the concept. The concept is business and it
> is what it is.
>
> Loyal.
>
> On Apr 14, 2009, at 1:40 PM, Martin Roesch wrote:
>
> > Snort 3.0 is open source.
> >
> > Marty
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 4:21 PM, Loyal A Moses <loyalmoses () mac com>
> > wrote:
> > > Snort is open source, until version 3. But that is a whole other
> > > argument.
> > > On Apr 14, 2009, at 1:11 PM, Joel Esler wrote:
> > >
> > > No one is taking a vote, we just said, "if we had a vote in it..."
> > > I'd
> > > rather take the code out of the IDS/IPS and put it into an output
> > > module.
> > >  One that is maintained well (as Shawn said).
> > > Snort is an open source program, I don't see harm in discussion on
> > > Snort's
> > > own mailing lists do you?
> > > J
> > >
> > > On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 3:35 PM, Loyal A Moses <loyalmoses () mac com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > Is Sourcefire limited on development skill or man power?
> > > >
> > > > It makes no sense at all to remove one of the most common facilities
> > > > in use by snort users because it is "too complex".
> > > >
> > > > In the end, you'll do what you are going to do regardless of the
> > > > community -- we've seen it before. But don't use "complexity" and
> > > > "bugs" as the excuse.
> > > >
> > > > Sourcefire is a publicly traded company -- Is it smart to be taking
> > > > votes on product development from a mailing list? I wouldn't think
> > > > so.
> > > >
> > > > Loyal.
> > > >
> > > > On Apr 14, 2009, at 11:52 AM, Jason Brvenik wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I have an ulterior motive and it is simple.
> > > > >
> > > > > Many of the bugs and issues over time with snort have been in
> > > > > output
> > > > > plugins. Make one well supported, tested, unified method designed
> > > > > for
> > > > > best performance and while doing so it improves the
> > > > > supportability and
> > > > > maintainability of the code base.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 2:39 PM, Loyal A Moses <loyalmoses () mac com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > My vote is to provide as many output options as possible, to help
> > > > > > keep
> > > > > > snort used as a tool.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The argument of code complexity being a good reason to remove
> > > > > > output
> > > > > > facilities is only valid if the code is written poorly and not
> > > > > > modular. This wheel doesn't need re-invented and this
> > > > > > conversation is
> > > > > > kind of silly, unless there is ulterior motives for actually
> > > > > > wanting
> > > > > > to remove this support.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Loyal.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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