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Re: Aanval Series 2 v2.3 Just Released
From: "Jeff Dell" <jdell () activeworx com>
Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2006 22:19:28 -0500
Eric, You said: "If the Snort management product is completely free -- a true open source product and is not sold or offered as a commercial solution, then I think they should have the right to announce to this list. However, products such as Aanval and ActiveWorx shouldn't (I've seen Jeff Dell do the same thing in the past)." Then you give an example in another email that you claim is a great example on how I did this. Lets take a look at the full original email without the bottom half removed like you posted[1]. As you can see I did nothing more then answer the person's request. I did not post an announcement like you claim. What is really interesting about the email you claim I am doing marketing with... if you scroll down on that same link you will see your reply to that same email with information about your product. Hmmm.. Maybe that wasn't such a good example? I have however sent many emails over the last 6 years announcing the release of our completely free product that is not sold or offered as a commercial solution [2]. Cheers, Jeff [1] http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=15364007 [2] http://www.activeworx.org/programs/idspm/
-----Original Message----- From: Eric Hines [mailto:eric.hines () appliedwatch com] Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 9:05 PM To: Jeff Dell Cc: snort-users () lists sourceforge net; administration () remoteassessment com Subject: Re: [Snort-users] Aanval Series 2 v2.3 Just Released -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Jeff, My statement was companies that have a free version and a commercial version of their solution. With you: IDS Policy Manager and your commercial product Activeworx Security Center. My point is, I can see abuse of this list by companies who make a stripped down version of their product for free and then use this list to "announce" that free version of their commercial solutions (Remote Assessment/Aanval). They click on the site to check out this stripped down version only to come upon the commercial product. I just think companies who have free stripped down versions of their product they sell shouldn't be allowed to market it on this list. Its ingenious I think -- limit some capabilities of your product and call it a free version in order to be able to market your company on this mailing list. Alright, yeah, we did it once :) I suppose I'm just tired of seeing Remote Assessments constant posts to this list for Aanval. The Halloween sale was the "straw that broke the camel's back" with me. Here is a post by you on April 10th which is a great example of what I'm talking about. Anyway, I don't want this to turn in to a flame war so I'll drop it. I said my piece. - --- snip --- - -------- Original Message -------- Subject: RE: [Snort-users] Snort Front-ends Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 18:02:36 -0400 From: Jeff Dell <jdell () activeworx com> To: 'Arif Basha' <arif.basha () janes com>, 'Snort Mailing Listehehe' <snort-users () lists sourceforge net> Activeworx has a few products that are free and commercial. Free solutions: IDS Policy Manager - Snort Rules manager that runs on Windows and will support sensors running on Microsoft and any OS that supports SSH. Website: http://www.activeworx.org Honeynet Security Console - Snort event manager that runs on Windows. Website: http://www.activeworx.org Commercial: Activeworx Security Center - Affordable commercial Snort event manager/SIM that can centralize Snort sensors/databases, schedule reports, correlate against vulnerabilities and events, interactive graphs, event relationship diagrams, plus a lot more. Website: http://www.activeworx.com Cheers, Jeff - ---- Best Regards, Eric Hines, GCIA, CISSP CEO, President Applied Watch Technologies, LLC 1095 Pingree Road Suite 221 Crystal Lake, IL 60014 Toll Free: (877) 262-7593 Fax: (847) 854-5106 Cell: (847) 456-6785 Web: www.appliedwatch.com Jeff Dell wrote:If the Snort management product is completely free -- a true open source product and is not sold or offered as a commercial solution, then I think they should have the right to announce to this list. However, products such as Aanval and ActiveWorx shouldn't (I've seen Jeff Dell do the same thing in the past).I would have to completely disagree with you. I have NEVERsent an emailabout our commercial software. We have however sent manyemails over theyears about our FREE product IDS Policy Manager. We havenever collected adime for this software and have even turned away people whowanted to donatemoney to help with development. We don't have a commercialversion of theproduct and we never will. We develop this product to giveback to thecommunity. Heck we even offer free support... So I wouldlove to see theemail where you claim I am marketing a commercial product. Cheers, Jeff-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFSqPb1va6QYTV0EMRAtWzAJ96jbAzFfTNEd9shKp095e+r2ElqwCfZqKn BxfM/H2loCY7QnN+7LgFI9Q= =w9Rm -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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