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RE: Re: [Snort-devel] IDS vs IPS


From: "Bob Walder" <bwalder () spamcop net>
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 17:18:09 +0200

Thanks Frank

I would also like to say that your definition of Snortsam is also spot
on to my mind - an Intrusion Reaction System or Intrusion Containment
System sounds about right!  ;o)

See... Who needs marketing guys?

Regards,

Bob Walder




-----Original Message-----
From: snort-devel-admin () lists sourceforge net 
[mailto:snort-devel-admin () lists sourceforge net] On Behalf 
Of Frank Knobbe
Sent: 22 August 2003 17:15
To: snort-devel () lists sourceforge net; 
snort-users () lists sourceforge net
Subject: RE: [Snort-users] Re: [Snort-devel] IDS vs IPS


On Fri, 2003-08-22 at 08:35, Bob Walder wrote:
My 0.02 worth is that a Network IPS (NIPS) is a device with two 
interfaces that operates in-line to detect suspicious traffic and 
INSTANTLY discard the offending packet and the rest of the 
suspicious 
flow.

Yup, I go with that. I actually like to refer to Snortsam as 
an Intrusion Reaction System, but IRS seems to have a 
negative ring to it
:)  How about Intrusion Containment Systems? ICS? Yeah, that's it.

However, my arm has been twisted to call it an IPS. Yes, it 
doesn't prevent the first packet from intruding (say a 
packet to tcp/135), but once detected, it will prevent 
further communication with the intruder, thus preventing him 
from doing further damage (i.e. shell commands). Depending 
on the signature you could also contain the target. Where 
Snortsam shines is the ability to contain that source/target 
on all you firewalls. So if a server in the DMZ gets 
infected with Blaster, you could have Snortsam reconfigure 
your DMZ firewall. If a laptop of a vendor is detected 
spitting out Blaster, you could have all your firewalls be 
configured to isolate that laptop from the rest of your enterprise.

Snortsam lacks the store'n'forward approach of the normal 
IPS's (as you just defined). But those are only single 
enforcement points. Snortsam can interact with multiple 
enforcement points. (i.e. if someone attempts an exploit on 
a server in London, you could have him blocked on your 
firewalls in London, New York, L.A., Madrid, Tokyo, etc).

Anyhow, just wanted to say that your definition of an IPS 
was right on.

Cheers,
Frank






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