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Re: Using 0days as part of pen-test?


From: Oliver Schad <oliver.schad () oschad de>
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 17:49:11 +0100

Am Donnerstag, 15. Januar 2009 schrieb mir David Howe:
Oliver Schad wrote:
I mean, why should I choose as a tester a role of an attacker who
knows nothing about the network if there is somebody in this world
who could attack this network with all knowledge he needs?

  Normally the framing of the attack model is part of the negotiation -
you can start out by assuming the attacker will have a full network
topology and all admin/root passwords, but you will probably find the
network isn't really that secure, and the report will probably get
slammed as being "unrealistic". However equally, you can't start out by
assuming an attacker will know nothing - if an attacker could
reasonably know something (a valid user/pass pair on the lan, for
example) that needs to be set out in the contract before the pentest
starts.

I think it's important to estimate or show the costs for a succesful 
attack. Which way you choose to do this don't matters. The costs is a 
value where a customer can work with.

Regards
Oli

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