RE: Mile2 Training (Certifications)

["Ken Kousky" <kkousky () ip3inc com>]

When exploring certification programs it's also important to note that
ANSI/OSI have a standard for the certification of professional licensing and
certification programs. The ANSI/OSI framework does not allow for this kind
of approach, where you have to buy a specific training product or program. 

A professional licensing process should be an independent test of
competencies and not a measure of the training program an individual
purchases. 

The DoD 8570 directive endorses ANSI/OSI certified certification programs -
I think for this reason. It's not buying training but establishing
competencies that matters.

It's what you know, not what you buy. I think mostgood professional
certifications are moving in this direction. 

We still have a long way to go before the processional standards for
competency are clearly codified. Right now, the targeted skills continue to
evolve with the exploits but we're starting to better understand the need
for foundation skills and then specific applications of these skills.

KWK 

-----Original Message-----
From: listbounce () securityfocus com [mailto:listbounce () securityfocus com] On
Behalf Of Clement Dupuis
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2007 7:18 PM
To: ppsih () hol gr; 'Pete Herzog'
Cc: 'Serge Vondandamo'; pen-test () securityfocus com
Subject: RE: Mile2 Training (Certifications)

There are lots of unethical people out there that will say to their
advantage that you MUST take the class.

This is simply because they are trying to sell you something.

As it was explained previously it is possible to take it by filling a form
to get your minimum of 2 years experience recognize.

Do take care

Clement


-----Original Message-----
From: listbounce () securityfocus com [mailto:listbounce () securityfocus com] On
Behalf Of ppsih () hol gr
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2007 4:24 AM
To: Pete Herzog
Cc: Serge Vondandamo; pen-test () securityfocus com
Subject: Re: Mile2 Training (Certifications)

Hi,

Well, I am also in Europe and a CEH instructor, and I do not know  
anything about such a requirement. In fact, I do have a couple of  
friends that gained their certification without attending the course.

Regards,
Panayiotis

Quoting Pete Herzog <lists () isecom org>:

> No, I am sure in Europe you MUST take the CEH course to sit for the CEH
> exam (I have heard this from CEH instructors and have just searched and
> found it at Wikipedia:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Certified_Ethical_Hacker.  This is NOT
> true of the OPST or OPSA.  In France you can sit for just the exam by
> contacting Dreamlab Technologies: www.dreamlab.net.
>
> Sincerely,
> -pete.



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