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Re: Testing the user community


From: Gadi Evron <ge () linuxbox org>
Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2007 01:25:26 -0600 (CST)

On Fri, 2 Feb 2007, Thor (Hammer of God) wrote:

Not withstanding the value of the other replies, the problem with this
method is that the outcome doesn't really prove anything one way or the
other.  If he sends a mock virus out and no one opens it, it doesn't mean
that they won't open a real one that comes out the next day.  If they do
open his, that doesn't mean they'll actually open a real one in the future.
  

You can always prove that your users will do something stupid.  That's
trivial.  If the goal is to actually improve the security posture of your
userbase, then engage in continued user education - not waste your time
trying to get them to open a virus.

Look at it as "active user education".

If you find out who always opens the attachments, or educate more and more
between different such "learning attacks", it is worth it.

It's up to the organization to choose doing it, and just once is
pointless.


t


On 2/1/07 6:55 AM, "Schanulleke" <schalulleke () gmail com> spoketh to all:

webmaster () absolutenetworks biz wrote:
We all know our weak link but how do you identify just how weak they are? I
think it's time to pen test my user community and have a couple ideas to
gather 
statistics on just how nonaware they really are.
What is the point you are trying to make, what is the goal you are
trying to achieve?
Maybe a simple phishing scam
and bogus email with a fake virus attachment that emails me when it's opened
so 
I can track how many folks actually opened it.  Has anyone ever done this
before? I can't find any information about it on the web.. thoughts and ideas
anybody?

  
It all has been done before for real. THere are plenty of real examples
out there. If you have AV check how often it is triggered. Or are you
really trying to prove that your users at 1d10ts?

Frank

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