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Re: Security Audit
From: "R. DuFresne" <dufresne () sysinfo com>
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 15:12:05 -0400 (EDT)
Anyone claiming that their pen test, vuln assessment, or security audit consists merely of running nessus and or nmap and producing a reporrt and final results is a charleton, and does the security industry a dis-service. Yet, I have seen, in practice, both outside consultants, hired guns from the outside and supposedly 'trained' professionls <CISSP!> within the corporate sector do merely this and stamp "certified secure" across organizations. A "test, assessment, or audit" are more akin to remodeling, then ne home building and remodeling, having done lots of it over time, I can safely state, is -=dirty work=-. When you rip open a wall, one is sometimes amazed, as well as disenheartened at what they find behind the sheetrock and plaster. Thanks, Ron DuFresne On Wed, 5 Sep 2001, Todd Ransom wrote:
A good estimate of time for a "Once Over" breaks down like this: Vulnerability Assessment: 20 minutes per host Penetration Test: 1 Hour per hostWhat is the difference between vuln assessment and pen test? I have not done either but this seems like a highly subjective area to me. Are you really going to do a vuln assess on a dynamic web site - with all its custom scripts and database connectivity and possibly middleware - in 20 minutes? It sounds like a vuln assess consists of running Nessus or something similar, searching bugtraq archives and possibly throwing in a google search for extra credit. Even on a workstation it seems like you couldn't get much done in 20 minutes. I don't even see how you could reliably enumerate all the installed software in less than 20 minutes. TR ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is provided by the SecurityFocus Security Intelligence Alert (SIA) Service. For more information on SecurityFocus' SIA service which automatically alerts you to the latest security vulnerabilities please see: https://alerts.securityfocus.com/
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- RE: Security Audit Christopher Ray (Sep 04)
- RE: Security Audit Aleksander Czarnowski (Sep 04)
- Re: Security Audit Forrest Rae (Sep 05)
- Re: Security Audit Todd Ransom (Sep 05)
- Re: Security Audit Bill Pennington (Sep 06)
- Re: Security Audit Todd Ransom (Sep 06)
- RE: Security Audit Dom De Vitto (Sep 06)
- Re: Security Audit Forrest Rae (Sep 06)
- Re: Security Audit R. DuFresne (Sep 06)
- Re: Security Audit Todd Ransom (Sep 05)
- Re: Security Audit Dave Wray (Sep 06)
- Re: Security Audit Jonathan Rickman (Sep 07)
- Re: Security Audit Philipp Buehler (Sep 06)
- Re: Security Audit bacano (Sep 06)
- Re: Security Audit bacano (Sep 05)
- Re: Security Audit JCovington (Sep 05)
- Re: Security Audit bacano (Sep 06)
- RE: Security Audit PM Systems - Rick Woehler (Sep 05)
- Re: Security Audit H Carvey (Sep 06)
- RE: Security Audit Filer, Eddie (ZA - Johannesburg) (Sep 06)