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Re: how IKE works in case of Checkpoint Firewall


From: Tina Bird <tbird () precision-guesswork com>
Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 11:47:17 -0500 (CDT)

First off, note that Checkpoint's naming of encryption
mechanisms is confusing.  IKE is not an encryption or
VPN protocol.  It's a protocol for host authentication, 
negotiation of security parameters for an encrypted
connection, and key generation and exchange.  What
Checkpoint really means is "IPsec VPN with dynamic key
exchange."  End rant.

IKE consists of two phases.  Phase One includes verification
of the identities of the local and remote systems (via pre-
shared secrets or certificates) and negotiation of the security
parameters for Phase Two.  If Phase Two does >not< need to be
encrypted, then the Phase One exchange is called "IKE Aggressive
Mode."  If Phase Two is required to use a secure channel, then
session keys are generated in Phase One, and Phase One is called
"IKE Main Mode."  Main Mode is about three times slower than 
Aggressive mode because of the key generation step.  The 
security parameters negotiated for the Phase Two connection 
are the IKE or ISAKMP Security Association.

One the hosts are authenticated, then Phase Two (also known as
"IKE Quick Mode") proceeds -- this is the piece that negotiates
the security parameters for the actual IPsec connection, including
IIPsec protocols (AH or ESP), lifetime of connection, encryption
and hash algorithms, and the initial session key for the
connection.  Assuming that the hosts can agree on a common set
of security parameters, once Quick Mode is complete, the IPsec
connection goes live.  This second set of parameters is the IPsec
Security Association.

You could >never< tell  that I'm revising my USENIX VPN class!

Hope that helps -- Tina Bird
VPN List Moderator

On Mon, 25 Jun 2001, [iso-8859-1] priya subramanian wrote:

Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 06:02:31 +0100 (BST)
From: "[iso-8859-1] priya subramanian" <pentesting () yahoo co in>
To: pen-test () securityfocus com
Subject: how IKE works in case of Checkpoint Firewall

In my understanding IKE invloves two phases wherin the
DH keys and the CA keys are exchanged and a secret key
is derived for encryption.

But when configuring IKE VPN in a checpoint firewall
we do exchenge any DH keys.. only a preshared secret
is directly given. This is really confusing.

Could anyone elaborate on how exactly IKe encryption
works with Firewall-1

Regards
Priya

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