Re: CEH

[Kevin Shaw <kevin.lee.shaw () gmail com>]

No sometimes about it, it's always about checkboxes. At least that gets you
in the door you have to walk the talk nowadays with budgets so tight... But
that's good I feel the mediocre are being pushed out.
On Apr 27, 2012 11:50 PM, "Zate" <zate75 () gmail com> wrote:

> I'd recommend PWB v3 (OSCP) over CEH any day. Much more useful information
> and knowledge.
>
> Zate
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 6:41 PM, Pat <nutjob.ie () gmail com> wrote:
>
> > Hi Guys,
> >
> > Thanks for that, the classroom fees are looking a little bit out of my
> > budget as iv owned three cars that together cost less.
> > I guess I have to start somewhere and im in a job at the moment where it
> > may be helpful.
> >
> > So im going to go self study and see can i get it done in a month or two.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Pat
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 6:50 AM, CP Constantine <conrad () 1211 net> wrote:
> >
> > > On 3/26/2012 7:11 AM, Robin Wood wrote:
> > >
> > > > On 26 March 2012 06:50, Pat<nutjob.ie () gmail com>  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > Im seriously thinking of doing the CEH exams and was hope there is
> > > > > someone
> > > > > here who can answer a question or two.
> > >
> > > It's worth noting that CEH teaches damn near nothing about ethics, and
> > > the name implies that those of us that don't possess it are by definition,
> > > unethical. (see Jack's rant on that one).
> > >
> > > For the most part, it teaches you to be a 'tools regurgitor' - showing
> > > you how to do things, but not why they work the way they do.
> > >
> > > In short, CEH is a great cert to look for on a resume when you''re
> > > looking for people that can do particular repeatable work within Infosec -
> > > as an indication of creative, critical analysis skills within the field
> > > however, much less so.
> > >
> > > (or basically, if you want a guy to run the companies internal vuln
> > > scans, it's great - but I wouldn't hire an incident response guy on the
> > > strength of a CEH).
> > >
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