Re: CEH

[Lenny Miyasato <lmiyasato () gmail com>]

The OSCP is a much more brutal course and it is not for the light hearted.
 The only drawback is that it does not have much mainstream support by
government or corporate America.  The upside is that it is highly respected
among the security community.  I also view the CEH and CISSP as the
complete opposite of the OSCP, but if you need those checkboxes filled out,
so be it.



On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 6:10 AM, Mrs. Y
<networksecurityprincess () gmail com>wrote:

> CEH meets the gov't DoD 8570 requirement. It's in the matrix along with
> CISSP, but it's faster to knock out. So if you're going to do
> contracting work, then it isn't a bad one to get. Most certifications
> are simply about having the right ticket to get punched for the HR train
> anyway.
>
> M.
>
> On 4/28/12 4:52 AM, Pat Moloney wrote:
> > Thanks
> >
> > Unfortunately too late bought the books built a lab and have a good
> > chunk of the course read. No stopping now.
> >
> > To be honest it's not the hardest exam going so far but it is at least a
> > start.
> >
> > Should have started years ago
> >
> > On 28/04/2012, at 13:50, Zate <zate75 () gmail com
> > <mailto:zate75 () gmail com>> wrote:
> >
> > > I'd recommend PWB v3 (OSCP) over CEH any day. Much more useful
> > > information and knowledge.
> > >
> > > Zate
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 6:41 PM, Pat <nutjob.ie () gmail com
> > > <mailto:nutjob.ie () gmail com>> wrote:
> > >
> > >     Hi Guys,
> > >
> > >     Thanks for that, the classroom fees are looking a little bit out
> > >     of my budget as iv owned three cars that together cost less.
> > >     I guess I have to start somewhere and im in a job at the moment
> > >     where it may be helpful.
> > >
> > >     So im going to go self study and see can i get it done in a month
> > >     or two.
> > >
> > >     Thanks,
> > >     Pat
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >     On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 6:50 AM, CP Constantine <conrad () 1211 net
> > >     <mailto:conrad () 1211 net>> wrote:
> > >
> > >         On 3/26/2012 7:11 AM, Robin Wood wrote:
> > >
> > >             On 26 March 2012 06:50, Pat<nutjob.ie () gmail com
> > >             <mailto:nutjob.ie () gmail com>>  wrote:
> > >
> > >                 Hi,
> > >
> > >                 Im seriously thinking of doing the CEH exams and was
> > >                 hope there is someone
> > >                 here who can answer a question or two.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >         It's worth noting that CEH teaches damn near nothing about
> > >         ethics, and the name implies that those of us that don't
> > >         possess it are by definition, unethical. (see Jack's rant on
> > >         that one).
> > >
> > >         For the most part, it teaches you to be a 'tools regurgitor' -
> > >         showing you how to do things, but not why they work the way
> > >         they do.
> > >
> > >         In short, CEH is a great cert to look for on a resume when
> > >         you''re looking for people that can do particular repeatable
> > >         work within Infosec - as an indication of creative, critical
> > >         analysis skills within the field however, much less so.
> > >
> > >         (or basically, if you want a guy to run the companies internal
> > >         vuln scans, it's great - but I wouldn't hire an incident
> > >         response guy on the strength of a CEH).
> > >
> > >
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