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Re: Computer Lab in a Jail...


From: Andrew Johnson <email () andrewcjohnson com>
Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 15:16:14 -0500

VDI would be great, but there are likely budget constraints that won't allow
that (the same is true for some of my suggestions).

Nuke them. You can retrieve the keys with this:
http://www.magicaljellybean.com/keyfinder/

How is software getting installed? Are they local administrators? If so,
take that away ASAP. Use group/local policies to remove a lot of
functionality (i.e. run prompt)

I think USB drives will cause you more problems than anything. What's to
stop them from sharing the physical devices? I'd disable USB (at least for
storage devices) if i were you.

Why don't you create a folder for each user on a file server and only give
access to that user via NTFS DACLs. They can't communicate or share files if
no one else can read from or write to the share. You'll probably have to use
something stronger than passwords for authentication, otherwise they'd just
share those. Fingerprint readers, smart cards, etc.

What type of switch do you have? Something like PVLANs could be used to
isolate systems on the network level:
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/tech/tk389/tk814/tk840/tsd_technology_support_sub-protocol_home.html

Those are just a few ideas off the top of my head. Your other options sound
good.

-A

On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 11:25 AM, Carlos Perez <
carlos_perez () darkoperator com> wrote:

Have you consideres VDI? If it is a possibility

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 19, 2010, at 3:36 AM, Brian H <binarynomad () gmail com> wrote:

I wanted to get some input from the security professionals point of view
on my situation.

I've been contacted by a local county detention center (read: JAIL), to
help with a computer lab that keeps getting pwned.  They keep having
problems with MP3s, Porn, and Gang communication on these computers.  They
say they keep trying to clean them up, but the next day everything is back.

I don't trust these computers one bit, I've already found an number of
questionable programs/processes (that I've removed), and some trojans in the
form of Adobe CS4 cracks that were placed on the hard drives.

My first objective is (scorched earth) to reinstall from scratch, but
that is on hold while they find the install CD's and Keys.  I've been told
these will not be available until later this week, but the first class of
the new session will happen before that.

So, in the meantime, I have to clean & lock these down as much as I can
while letting the students still run the class programs and save their work
somewhere.

Environment:
   - 20 Lab/Student machines, 1 instructor
   - Two (2h) classes per day, AM (beginner) and PM (advanced)
   - Windows Vista Home Basic, Dell Optiplex 360, 2GB RAM, 130GB HD
   - No server
   - Students on closed network, unless teacher plugs in uplink cable
   - Students used to drop off work over network to teacher's PC.
   - Teacher has filtered Internet access cable next to their PC
   - Classes cover basic Office Suite, Typing, and IC3 Certification.
   - Previous IT person had "flexible morals", did favors for inmates.

Ongoing problems:
   - Some malicious, computer savvy, felons
   - Gang messages hidden on the system to communicate to other members
   - Gang communication and file sharing across LAN in class
   - Porn and MP3 being spread between computers

Options:
   - Removing all non essential programs
   - Installing and using Microsoft SteadyState
   - Creating student profile, with standard permissions
   - Enabling parental controls on student profile, app limitations, etc.
   - Disabling network switch (in the class room)
   - Disabling NIC in BIOS
   - Password protect BIOS

Still trying to figure out how to let them save files, yet not leave
messages for other students.  I'm considering getting 40x 2GB USB Flash
Drives (one for each student of each class) so SteadyState can just nuke all
changes between students.  Teacher would distribute and collect all drives
before and at the end of class.

----
Brian H
binarynomad () gmail com
http://www.binarynomad.com

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