Fwd: Looking for a little help

[cclymer at gmail.com (Chris Clymer)]

Problem for me is that the GSE is f'ing expensive, i dont believe the  
certs i have count in more than a minor way (GPEN & GWAPT) and ive  
never seen it on a job app.

Great accomplishment if you can swing it, but i question the ROI.  As  
far as i can tell most SANS instructors dont even have it.

I was on the email chain about revising GSE requirements, and i still  
cant tell what i would need to do to get it. As a SANS instructor, is  
it any more clear to you?

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On Feb 9, 2010, at 8:23 AM, John Strand <strandjs at gmail.com> wrote:

> This is odd....  Chris wants to take the GSE exam and needs to have  
> some more people sign up or the test is going to get canceled.
>
> Well, the challenge is out.  Get out and and sign up for the GSE.
>
> Look, I am one of the first people to say that many tech  
> certifications in and of themselves mean little.  However, in many  
> situations they are required to get and maintain the job you  
> want...  When you look at many of the cool jobs in security they are  
> asking for SANS certs... Why? Because they mean something.
>
> This one means even more. This industry needs to have a cert where  
> if someone has it we can say with a high degree of certainty that  
> they know what the hell they are talking about on a wide variety of  
> topics in security. GSE is that cert.
>
> I also know that many of you collect SANS certs like Pokymon  
> cards...  GSE is a nice cap.
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Chris Mohan <christopher.mohan at gmail.com>
> Date: Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 3:48 AM
> Subject: Looking for a little help
> To: strandjs at gmail.com, jstrand at sans.org
>
>
> Hello John,
>
> I'm after a little bit, well possibility a lot, of help from you.
>
> I've decided attempt the GSE exam this year. That's not the problem,
> although a touch of insanity and delusion on my part perhaps.  The  
> problem
> is that only one other person has also signed up, despite GIAC  
> changing the
> requirements.
>
> The bit of help I'm after is for you and the folks at Pauldotcom to  
> put out
> the challenge to other saner folk to step up with me and get on to  
> the GSE
> track.
>
> If an English bloke, living in Australia that works with Windows -  
> and the
> fully featured firewall that is ISA - can try for the GSE, then I'd  
> hope for
> at least five of your ex-students or PDC listeners to take that step  
> with
> me.
>
> There seems to be a massive fear factor about the GSE exams, so I've  
> started
> off a blog, witty entitled http://gse.chris-mohan.com to chart my  
> attempt
> and break down some of that GSE FUD.
>
> As Paul and Larry first put me on the path to SANS training, back in
> December of 2005, it would be a neat twist of fate if they could  
> help out by
> getting me some brilliant people to be part of the final two day  
> practical
> exam.
>
> I'd love to be in the room in Las Vegas working with some great  
> minds to
> nail the last day's challenge. You and the guys either know or can  
> reach
> these people and can inspire them to give it a try.
>
> To quote a chick with bagels on her head "This is our most desperate  
> hour.
> Help me, Obi-Wan Kenobi; you're my only hope"
>
> A desperate, somewhat over-dramatic plea from the Sunny shores of  
> Sydney
>
> Chris
>
>
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