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From: vlape at me.com (Vincent Lape)
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 13:30:14 -0700

Obviously OP has already tried to persuade his boss to fix the issue.  
In my experience working with executives, they do not like to hear the  
same issue over and over again once they have made a decision thats  
that. Sometimes it takes a severe failure for people to realize  
security is important. Granted it sucks however it tends to be the  
reality in many SMB's

At the end of the day, when things come rolling down hill OP just  
needs to make sure the issues are documented so he does not get the  
blame. The job market is rough at the moment.....


On Oct 12, 2009, at 1:19 PM, Kennith Asher wrote:

I have to disagree with your approach Vincent.

The point is to protect people from themselves, not point a finger  
after they've failed.

Security is a tough biz since it gets in the way of most people just  
doing their job.  It's up to us to convince them that the risk of  
breach is much worse than the inconvenience caused by good security  
policy.  Us versus them is simply not the way to a more secure  
environment.

As much as I enjoy a good laugh at the expense of an uninformed  
person's Epic Fail, documented conversation + CYA response -  
customer data = FAIL on both of you IMO.

Ken

On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 12:42 PM, Vincent Lape <vlape at me.com> wrote:
document your conversation with "top buy" create a report stating the
issue and remediation recommendations and just wait till it gets
pwned. Once customer data is out there in the wild im sure they will
have a different outlook on the issue. Just make sure you CYA so "top
guy" doe snot come back and say hey that dude was responsible to
fixing that problem.


On Oct 12, 2009, at 10:24 AM, Soft Reset wrote:

Without spilling details, I told the IT team to remove an exposed
web portal from the internet as it was not SSL protected and the
password was easy enough to be found in my kid's "My First
Dictionary".  This is the response I got back from our "top guy":

 "Many people need access to the web portal.  Remember that one of
the objectives is to develop a strategy
  for the customer. Easier access, not harder, should be the goal."

I laughed.  How about you?


--SR6
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