DHS to hire up to 1,000 cybersecurity experts

[allen.deryke at hushmail.com (Allen Deryke)]

Amen, this has been my exact experince with larger operations. A lot  
of good people with their hands tied is what I've seen over and over  
again.

-- Allen Deryke

On Oct 2, 2009, at 11:08 AM, Ben Greenfield <bcg at struxural.com> wrote:

> Having previously worked with a community along those lines, and left
> for a smaller private company, I can say personally the bigger issue
> for me was never salary, it was culture and inefficient bureaucracy.
>
> In my limited experience I found that many government agencies and the
> business partners who work with them had their hands tied by what seem
> to the people in the trenches to be arbitrary policies that don't
> always seem correct.  In my experience we were required to take orders
> from multiple authorities, and often it was clear that they were not
> communicating effectively with each other, and would frequently get in
> pissing contests that left everyone beneath them at a disadvantage.
>
> On top of that, the list of software and hardware we were allowed to
> use required doing a cross-comparison between numerous lists that take
> aeon's to get approved onto.  I can specifically recall situations
> where I needed to apply a patch, but that the patch would have changed
> the version number, and the new patched version number wasn't
> approved.
>
> My .02 cents is that the .gov infrastructure badly needs intelligent
> infosec people making smart decisions, but that if they can't do
> something about the culture of inefficiency they won't be able to keep
> the good employees motivated long enough to enact the changes they
> need.
>
> I have positive things to say as well, but they aren't as  
> interesting...
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 9:41 AM, Jason Wood <tadaka at gmail.com> wrote:
> > I read about this yesterday at the Washington Post.  DHS is saying  
> > that they
> > want to hire the best experts they can find, but the .gov salary  
> > ranges have
> > never been very enticing.  I wonder how well it will really work out.
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 7:18 AM, <bradnel at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/10/02/dhs.cybersecurity.jobs/index.html
> > >
> > > This ought to make this interesting.
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