802.11 Wireless Security Class for the Louisville ISSA Part 1

[dninja at gmail.com (Robin Wood)]

2009/5/25 Adrian Crenshaw <irongeek at irongeek.com>:
> At my class, you will notice at about 3min in there is some lady talking
> loud on her phone, and it was very distracting for me.

Just got to 4 mins in and did notice it!

> Adrian
>
> On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 10:16 AM, Michael Douglas <mick at pauldotcom.com>
> wrote:
> > Just have to chime in on the CPE issue. ?Those that are simply
> > accruing CPEs and not there for the love of it is yet another symptom
> > of what separates "them" from "us".
> >
> > Not all professions will have people who are passionate about what
> > they do... however IMO InfoSec seems to not yet have done a good job
> > of culling the posers.
> >
> > (enough ranting about that)
> >
> > When I present, I try to use those CPE snaggers as a barometer. ?If I
> > can get them into the session, that I'm fairly confident that I'm
> > making this meaningful for everyone. ?The only problem that I
> > routinely see with this is that I wind up having to shoot a bit lower
> > than I'd like. ?Yet when I ask around, most folks seem to like the
> > lowered bar. ?:-( ?I think the issue is that most folks who go to
> > these events don't actually want their hair blown back. ?They just
> > want a few tips and tricks... If you throw them into the deep end,
> > they don't all float! ?;-p
> >
> > Well that's been my experience anyway.
> > - Mick
> >
> > On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 9:34 AM, Adrian Crenshaw <irongeek at irongeek.com>
> > wrote:
> > > Well, I'm guessing on the juse showing up for CPE. Some of the folks
> > > were
> > > accountants as I understand it, and really did not seem to understand
> > > the
> > > tech. Also, I offered to hand around after class to let people play with
> > > the
> > > tech, and most wanted to be out of there when the 4hrs were up.
> > >
> > > I could do timing better next time, but these classes I've been teaching
> > > are
> > > one offs. The next one will be on a different topic.
> > >
> > > As for Christopher's question, I have no idea how much time I spent
> > > outside
> > > of class just getting things to work. I spent a lot of time just getting
> > > all
> > > of my demos in order and writing notes for them.
> > >
> > > Adrian
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 6:11 AM, Daniel [Virturity.com]
> > > <daniel at virturity.com> wrote:
> > > > > 4. Lots of folks will show up for CPE, but may not really be
> > > > > interested
> > > > in the subject.
> > > >
> > > > Thats interesting. It wouldnt even cross my mind to spend time
> > > > somewhere
> > > > just for CPE if im not interested. How did you notice some werent
> > > > really
> > > > there for the topic?
> > > > Btw. how many attendees do you have for these ISSA events?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, 2009-05-24 at 19:20 -0400, Adrian Crenshaw wrote:
> > > > > Well, I ran the class Saturday, unfortunately things di not go as
> > > > > smoothly as I would have liked. Originally, this was going to be one
> > > > > 4hr class, but Jeff had something come up so he could not cover
> > > > > WEP/WPA cracking, and my section took so long that Brian never got a
> > > > > chance to present his material on DD-WRT. I'm hoping to get them back
> > > > > to do a part 2 of this video. In this section I cover the basics of
> > > > > WiFi, good chipsets, open file shares, monitor mode, war driving
> > > > > tools, testing injection, deauth attacks and the evil twin attack.
> > > > > Some of this comes out as kind of a stream of consciousness, but
> > > > > hopefully you can find some useful nuggets from my brain dump of what
> > > > > I've learned about 802.11a/b/g/n hacking. As far as classes goes this
> > > > > is the mostly complicated one I've set up.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.irongeek.com/i.php?page=videos/802-11-wireless-security-class-part-1
> > > > >
> > > > > Things I've learned by trying to teach this class:
> > > > >
> > > > > 1. Wireless classes take lots of wires. Brian and I had to run a lot
> > > > > of cables to get all of our routers, video equipment and laptops
> > > > > functioning.
> > > > > 2. I have no idea how long it will take me to demo something live.
> > > > > 3. The Jeffersonville library needs more APs.
> > > > > 4. Lots of folks will show up for CPE, but may not really be
> > > > > interested in the subject.
> > > > > 5. Don't chew gum while teaching.
> > > > > 6. My VGA to S-Video adapter needs some adjusting so it does not crop
> > > > > the sides.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Adrian
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