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Re: Debian FEATURE: /home/loser is with permissions 755, default umask 0022
From: Russ Allbery <eagle () eyrie org>
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2020 21:36:28 -0700
Brian May <brian () linuxpenguins xyz> writes:
Jeffrey Walton <noloader () gmail com> writes:
[...] like making /home/loser/www available to other users.
Does anybody even do this anymore?
Yes, I'm still seeing this pattern in the academic world. In general, shared file systems and an expectation of a generous umask are still very common in the academic and scientific world, where people routinely work collaboratively on large data sets and share snippets of code and data frequently.
Once upon a time, a shared Unix system account come with an implied web account which you could use to publish files and create your own website. But I cannot personally think of any examples where this still happens. websystems and shell accounts are generally stored on distinct and independent systems.
I personally still maintain my web pages this way, although I'm not a good example, of course, and it's on my list to change. :) But I have also still seen this pattern in scientific work. There's built-in support in Apache still.
Plus even if I was going to implement such a system today, I might seriously consider using - say "/web/loser" instead. Although this might have implications if quotas are important. Or maybe something that bind mounts /home/loser/www to /web/loser, that way the web software doesn't need access to /home/loser.
Yes, indeed. It's certainly not an argument against changing the defaults; a small amount of additional user work to actively choose to share something is a better default approach. -- Russ Allbery (eagle () eyrie org) <https://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/>
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- Debian FEATURE: /home/loser is with permissions 755, default umask 0022 Georgi Guninski (Oct 07)
- Re: Debian FEATURE: /home/loser is with permissions 755, default umask 0022 Jeremy Stanley (Oct 07)
- Re: Debian FEATURE: /home/loser is with permissions 755, default umask 0022 Noel Kuntze (Oct 07)
- Re: Debian FEATURE: /home/loser is with permissions 755, default umask 0022 Brian May (Oct 07)
- Re: Debian FEATURE: /home/loser is with permissions 755, default umask 0022 Solar Designer (Oct 12)
- Re: Debian FEATURE: /home/loser is with permissions 755, default umask 0022 Kurt H Maier (Oct 12)
- Re: Debian FEATURE: /home/loser is with permissions 755, default umask 0022 Jeffrey Walton (Oct 12)
- Re: Debian FEATURE: /home/loser is with permissions 755, default umask 0022 Brian May (Oct 12)
- Re: Debian FEATURE: /home/loser is with permissions 755, default umask 0022 Russ Allbery (Oct 12)
- Re: Debian FEATURE: /home/loser is with permissions 755, default umask 0022 Jeremy Stanley (Oct 07)
- Re: Debian FEATURE: /home/loser is with permissions 755, default umask 0022 Eli Schwartz (Oct 13)
- Re: Debian FEATURE: /home/loser is with permissions 755, default umask 0022 Seth Arnold (Oct 07)
- Re: Debian FEATURE: /home/loser is with permissions 755, default umask 0022 Bob Friesenhahn (Oct 08)
- Re: Debian FEATURE: /home/loser is with permissions 755, default umask 0022 Seth Arnold (Oct 08)