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Re: Replacing passwords.lst


From: Brandon Enright <bmenrigh () ucsd edu>
Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 18:50:54 +0000

Sorry for the top-post I'm on a crappy phone. I was thinking the same as what David asked below. Also, Ron, I think you have shown than there isn't much overlap


Brandon


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On Mar 5, 2010, at 18:46, David Fifield <david () bamsoftware com> wrote:

On Fri, Mar 05, 2010 at 09:19:19AM -0600, Ron wrote:
On Thu, 4 Mar 2010 22:27:16 +0000 Brandon Enright <bmenrigh () ucsd edu>
wrote:
Ron, what percentage of the PHPBB password would we crack with the
current 200 versus your new suggested 200?  Do we see a similar
increase?
Surprisingly, there doesn't seem to be a strong correlation between the rockyou passwords and the phpbb passwords. The top 500 phpbb passwords almost all appear somewhere on the rockyou list, but there doesn't appear to be a strong correlation between the rankings. That being said, the top 1000 Rockyou.com passwords would crack 742 phpbb passwords. The passwords just aren't in the top 1000 phpbb passwords -- they're all over the place.

I think the problem is the scales. phpbb only has 30,000 or so passwords (correct me if that's wrong), so it isn't a huge statistical base. Rockyou.com, on the other hand, had 33,000,000 passwords, 1000x more, which gives a much better base for statistics.

Anyway, enough talking, I'll give some raw numbers. I took the stats as, "The top X Rockyou.com passwords would crack Y phpbb passwords" -- this doesn't take volumes into account.

Rockyou_PWs  Cracked_phpbb
10           9
100          93
200          182
500          413
1000         742
5000         2118
20000        3583
50000        4492

And what does the Cracked_phpbb column look like with the top 10, 100,
and 200 passwords from current passwords.lst?

David Fifield
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