Re: N91 Women mixer on Sunday?

[Ryan Hamel <ryan () rkhtech org>]

Paul,

Anne's opinion is just as valid as the others here. I have also browsed through the recent attendee lists and do not 
see you listed either, pot calling the kettle black. Your comments about her email signature and which voices are valid 
here, are not productive. We are allowed to back up and/or side with whomever we please, even if it includes the NANOG 
board, staff, and committee members. We are also allowed to call people out on their behavior towards others.

Anyway, no one truly knows how many people could have raised the scheduling issue with various committee members, the 
board, staff, or provided feedback via the contact form on the website, and who knows it could have come from young 
women. Those voices do not have to come from the mailing list, to be just as valid as ours.

Ryan Hamel

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Subject: Re: N91 Women mixer on Sunday?

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Hi, Anne-

I'm sure that your time was better spent gathering the "credentials"
in your signature, but I checked the last 20 or so NANOG meetings and
didn't see a single registration from you, so perhaps stay out of
things you know literally nothing about.

If it weren't for Ilissa, NANOG would not exist in the form that it
does today, and she's done more work on and off the clock driving the
success of the organization and their meetings than she takes credit
for. NANOG, and especially the women that attend NANOG, owe her a
tremendous debt of gratitude. Her opinion, and Tina's response, are
literally the only ones that carry any weight in this thread, period.

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On Thu, Mar 28, 2024 at 3:24 PM Anne P. Mitchell, Esq.
<amitchell () isipp com> wrote:
> > I'm not sure people realize how much crap that staff and the PC get *every meeting* about the agenda. There's 
> > always someone unhappy because this event wasn't the same, or why was it in this room over here, or OMG Wed 
> > afternoon, etc. Having seen how that sausage gets made, they don't get enough credit.
>
> Having been the chair of the Asilomar Microcomputer workshop, and the founder and chair of the original Email 
> Deliverability Summits, as well as organizing many legal conferences, I have to say "^^^ this, 1000%."
>
> Furthermore:
>
> > On Mar 28, 2024, at 11:45 AM, Ilissa Miller <ilissa () imillerpr com> wrote:
> >
> > For those that know me, I rarely provide constructive input about NANOG matters
>
> ..and you haven't here, either.  Pointing fingers and griping about things is not constructive.  If you really care 
> about this issue, then get involved and help change it.
>
> Anne
>
> ---
> Anne P. Mitchell, Esq.
> Internet Law & Policy Attorney
> CEO Institute for Social Internet Public Policy (ISIPP)
> Author: Section 6 of the CAN-SPAM Act of 2003 (the Federal email marketing law)
> Board of Directors, Denver Internet Exchange
> Dean Emeritus, Cyberlaw & Cybersecurity, Lincoln Law School
> Prof. Emeritus, Lincoln Law School
> Chair Emeritus, Asilomar Microcomputer Workshop
> Counsel Emeritus, eMail Abuse Prevention System (MAPS)

On Thu, Mar 28, 2024 at 3:24 PM Anne P. Mitchell, Esq.
<amitchell () isipp com> wrote:
> > I'm not sure people realize how much crap that staff and the PC get *every meeting* about the agenda. There's 
> > always someone unhappy because this event wasn't the same, or why was it in this room over here, or OMG Wed 
> > afternoon, etc. Having seen how that sausage gets made, they don't get enough credit.
>
> Having been the chair of the Asilomar Microcomputer workshop, and the founder and chair of the original Email 
> Deliverability Summits, as well as organizing many legal conferences, I have to say "^^^ this, 1000%."
>
> Furthermore:
>
> > On Mar 28, 2024, at 11:45 AM, Ilissa Miller <ilissa () imillerpr com> wrote:
> >
> > For those that know me, I rarely provide constructive input about NANOG matters
>
> ..and you haven't here, either.  Pointing fingers and griping about things is not constructive.  If you really care 
> about this issue, then get involved and help change it.
>
> Anne
>
> ---
> Anne P. Mitchell, Esq.
> Internet Law & Policy Attorney
> CEO Institute for Social Internet Public Policy (ISIPP)
> Author: Section 6 of the CAN-SPAM Act of 2003 (the Federal email marketing law)
> Board of Directors, Denver Internet Exchange
> Dean Emeritus, Cyberlaw & Cybersecurity, Lincoln Law School
> Prof. Emeritus, Lincoln Law School
> Chair Emeritus, Asilomar Microcomputer Workshop
> Counsel Emeritus, eMail Abuse Prevention System (MAPS)