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Re: The Reg does 240/4
From: Christopher Hawker <chris () thesysadmin au>
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2024 22:33:56 +0000
We understand that having 240/4 reclassified as public space for assignment/allocation by RIRs will take some time and we are not expecting it to happen overnight. Having it reclassified as unicast space is indeed much easier. The Linux kernel already supports this (thanks Dave Taht), Windows is a "Patch Tuesday" away, and many hardware vendors can enable support for 240/4 with a minor firmware revision if they already do not. With that, comes the argument - what about legacy hardware that vendors no longer support, or are out of warranty and no longer receive software updates? There are a few ways this could go, either network operators replace their equipment with equipment that supports this space (and grants allocated for organisations in LDCs who may have issues with funding equipment replacement) or hardware vendors release a special public firmware update that only addresses this change in routability which is exempt from support contract requirements (resulting in less equipment from being scrapped). Regards, Christopher Hawker ________________________________ From: William Herrin <bill () herrin us> Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2024 3:43 AM To: Christopher Hawker <chris () thesysadmin au> Cc: North American Operators' Group <nanog () nanog org> Subject: Re: The Reg does 240/4 On Tue, Feb 13, 2024 at 2:03 AM Christopher Hawker <chris () thesysadmin au> wrote:
[Note: I have cross-posted this reply to a thread from NANOG on AusNOG, SANOG and APNIC-Talk in order to invite more peers to engage in the discussion on their respective forums.]
Chris, Do not cross-post lists. Many of the folks who want to discuss are only subscribed to one of the lists and thus cannot post to the others. This inevitably results in a disjoint and confusing set of posts with replies to messages for which the originals didn't make it to the local list. If you want to discuss something on multiple lists with multiple audiences, start a separate discussion on each. Honestly, how can you not know this. It's only been mailing list etiquette for decades.
we feel it is appropriate for this space to be reclassified as Unicast space available for delegation by IANA/PTI to RIRs on behalf of ICANN.
That is probably unrealistic. Getting 240/4 reclassified as unicast is at least plausible. As you say, there's no residual value in continuing to hold it in reserve. The opportunity cost has fallen near zero. But before anybody with a clue is willing to see it allocated to RIRs for general Internet use they'll want to see studies and experiments which demonstrate that it's usable enough on the public Internet to be usefully deployed there. Regards, Bill Herrin -- William Herrin bill () herrin us https://bill.herrin.us/
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- Re: [External] Re: IPv6 uptake, (continued)
- Re: [External] Re: IPv6 uptake Hunter Fuller via NANOG (Feb 19)
- Re: [External] Re: IPv6 uptake William Herrin (Feb 19)
- Re: [External] Re: IPv6 uptake Dave Taht (Feb 19)
- Re: [External] Re: IPv6 uptake Tim Howe (Feb 19)
- Re: [External] Re: IPv6 uptake William Herrin (Feb 19)
- Re: [External] Re: IPv6 uptake Tim Howe (Feb 19)
- Re: [External] Re: IPv6 uptake William Herrin (Feb 19)
- Re: IPv6 uptake Tom Beecher (Feb 19)
- Re: The Reg does 240/4 Mike Hammett (Feb 16)
- Re: The Reg does 240/4 Christopher Hawker (Feb 13)
- Re: The Reg does 240/4 William Herrin (Feb 13)
- Re: The Reg does 240/4 Christopher Hawker (Feb 13)
- Re: The Reg does 240/4 John Levine (Feb 13)
- Re: The Reg does 240/4 Tom Beecher (Feb 13)
- Re: The Reg does 240/4 Christopher Hawker (Feb 13)
- Re: The Reg does 240/4 Christopher Hawker (Feb 13)
- Re: The Reg does 240/4 Owen DeLong via NANOG (Feb 14)
- Re: The Reg does 240/4 Stephen Satchell (Feb 14)