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Re: Why are paper LOAs still used?
From: Matt Erculiani <merculiani () gmail com>
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2024 12:13:31 -0700
A paper LOA is a legally binding document, an IRR record is an IRR record. Falsifying an LOA that is transmitted digitally is wire fraud and can basically be handed right over to a DA for injunction and prosecution. Falsifying IRR records on the other hand leaves more work for the ISP's lawyers to walk a judge (and jury) through the entire purpose and use of that system, as opposed to "here's a super important sheet of paper that they lied on case closed". -Matt On Mon, Feb 26, 2024 at 11:57 AM Seth Mattinen via NANOG <nanog () nanog org> wrote:
Why do companies still insist on, or deploy new systems that rely on paper LOA for IP and ASN resources? How can this be considered more trustworthy than RIR based IRR records? And I'm not even talking about old companies, I have a situation right now where a VPS provider I'm using will no longer use IRR and only accepts new paper LOAs. In the year 2024. I don't understand how anyone can go backwards like that. ~Seth
-- Matt Erculiani
Current thread:
- Why are paper LOAs still used? Seth Mattinen via NANOG (Feb 26)
- Re: Why are paper LOAs still used? Tom Beecher (Feb 26)
- Re: Why are paper LOAs still used? Peter Potvin via NANOG (Feb 26)
- Re: Why are paper LOAs still used? John Kristoff (Feb 26)
- Re: Why are paper LOAs still used? Matt Erculiani (Feb 26)
- Re: Why are paper LOAs still used? Sean Donelan (Feb 26)
- Re: Why are paper LOAs still used? Ren Provo (Feb 26)
- Re: Why are paper LOAs still used? Sean Donelan (Feb 26)
- Re: Why are paper LOAs still used? Sean Donelan (Feb 26)
- Re: Why are paper LOAs still used? Tom Beecher (Feb 26)
- Re: Why are paper LOAs still used? Joe via NANOG (Feb 26)
- Re: Why are paper LOAs still used? Jay Acuna (Feb 27)
- Re: Why are paper LOAs still used? Daniel Marks via NANOG (Feb 26)
- Re: Why are paper LOAs still used? Tom Samplonius (Feb 26)
- Re: Why are paper LOAs still used? Carlos Friaças via NANOG (Feb 27)
- Re: Why are paper LOAs still used? Aaron Wendel (Feb 26)
- Re: Why are paper LOAs still used? Jason Canady (Feb 26)