Re: Guest Column: Kentik's Doug Madory, Last Call for Upcoming ISOC Course + More

[Martin Hannigan <hannigan () gmail com>]

What network does Nanog-news operate?

Marketing email doesn’t  belong on an operational list.  Even if its NANOG
marketing itself.  (Ack Kentik non involvement).

Warm regards,

-M<


On Fri, Sep 8, 2023 at 20:52 Ryan Hamel <ryan () rkhtech org> wrote:

> Randy,
>
> You're right, the problem is not technical. It's a choice to click the
> links or not. NANOG does not have to sanitize links for you. Those emails
> do not have to be read, and no one is stopping you from filtering them out.
> For you to say, "my privacy has been sold", is simply not true.
>
> Ryan
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* NANOG <nanog-bounces+ryan=rkhtech.org () nanog org> on behalf of
> Randy Bush <randy () psg com>
> *Sent:* Friday, September 8, 2023 5:25 PM
> *To:* John Gilmore <gnu () toad com>
> *Cc:* nanog () nanog org <nanog () nanog org>
> *Subject:* Re: Guest Column: Kentik's Doug Madory, Last Call for Upcoming
> ISOC Course + More
>
> Caution: This is an external email and may be malicious. Please take care
> when clicking links or opening attachments.
>
>
> > It is totally possible to turn off the spyware in MailChimp.  You just
> > need to buy an actual commercial account rather than using their
> > "free" service.  To save $13 or $20 per month, you are instead selling
> > the privacy of every recipient of your emails.  See:
> https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmailchimp.com%2Fhelp%2Fenable-and-view-click-tracking%2F&data=05%7C01%7Cryan%40rkhtech.org%7C4ac3a26bb5c4481c087908dbb0cbc6d7%7C81c24bb4f9ec4739ba4d25c42594d996%7C0%7C0%7C638298161499653329%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=Pw6uDgHDzT%2BavOz1jYAbG4VzTyP0en0oiuBq0PmTtVI%3D&reserved=0
> <https://mailchimp.com/help/enable-and-view-click-tracking/>
> >   "Check the Track clicks box to enable click tracking, or uncheck the
> >   box to disable click tracking.  ...  Mailchimp will continue to
> >   redirect URLs for users with free account plans to protect against
> >   malicious links.  ...  When a paid user turns off click tracking,
> >   Mailchimp will continue to redirect their URLs until certain account
> >   activity thresholds are met."
> >
> > Don't forget to turn off the spyware 1x1 pixel "web bugs" that
> > MailChimp inserts by default, too:
> https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmailchimp.com%2Fhelp%2Fabout-open-tracking%2F&data=05%7C01%7Cryan%40rkhtech.org%7C4ac3a26bb5c4481c087908dbb0cbc6d7%7C81c24bb4f9ec4739ba4d25c42594d996%7C0%7C0%7C638298161499653329%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=iqkTsuhDFD3poxVltrN4x%2FWY6eXpbIivWxf4VAWcXKA%3D&reserved=0
> <https://mailchimp.com/help/about-open-tracking/>
>
>
> as usual, the problem is not technical.  there is no need for mailchump
> at all.
>
> nanog management has made a very intentional decision to sell my
> privacy.  nanog has come a long way, not all of it  good.
>
> randy