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Re: Charter DNS servers returning malware filtered IP addresses
From: Tom Beecher <beecher () beecher cc>
Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2023 13:13:47 -0400
DNS isn’t the right place to attack this, IMHO.
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I’ve seen plenty of situations where the filters were just plain wrong and if the end user didn’t actively choose that filtration, the target site may be victimized without anyone knowing where to go to complain.
Not much different from IP Geolocation. Probably not the right solution to many things, but people do it anyways., often causing problems that people don't know where to go to complain. On Fri, Oct 27, 2023 at 10:14 PM Owen DeLong via NANOG <nanog () nanog org> wrote:
DNS isn’t the right place to attack this, IMHO.Why not (apart from a purity argument), and where should it happeninstead? As others pointed out, network operators have a vested interest in protecting their customers from becoming victims to malware. Takedowns of the hostile target sites. You dismiss the purity argument, but IMHO, there’s merit to the purity argument. Any such DNS filtration, if provided, should be provided on an opt-in basis, not as a default. I’ve seen plenty of situations where the filters were just plain wrong and if the end user didn’t actively choose that filtration, the target site may be victimized without anyone knowing where to go to complain. Owen
Current thread:
- Re: Charter DNS servers returning invalid IP addresses, (continued)
- Re: Charter DNS servers returning invalid IP addresses Jason J. Gullickson via NANOG (Oct 25)
- Re: Charter DNS servers returning invalid IP addresses Bryan Fields (Oct 25)
- Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Charter DNS servers returning invalid IP addresses Compton, Rich A (Oct 25)
- Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Charter DNS servers returning invalid IP addresses Bryan Fields (Oct 25)
- Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Charter DNS servers returning malware filtered IP addresses John Levine (Oct 27)
- Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Charter DNS servers returning malware filtered IP addresses Bryan Fields (Oct 27)
- Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Charter DNS servers returning malware filtered IP addresses John Levine (Oct 27)
- Re: [EXTERNAL] Charter DNS servers returning malware filtered IP addresses Owen DeLong via NANOG (Oct 27)
- Re: Charter DNS servers returning malware filtered IP addresses niels=nanog (Oct 27)
- Re: Charter DNS servers returning malware filtered IP addresses Owen DeLong via NANOG (Oct 27)
- Re: Charter DNS servers returning malware filtered IP addresses Tom Beecher (Oct 29)
- Re: Charter DNS servers returning malware filtered IP addresses John Levine (Oct 29)
- Re: [EXTERNAL] Charter DNS servers returning malware filtered IP addresses Jay R. Ashworth (Oct 28)
- Re: [EXTERNAL] Charter DNS servers returning malware filtered IP addresses Delong.com via NANOG (Oct 28)
- Re: [EXTERNAL] Charter DNS servers returning malware filtered IP addresses John R. Levine (Oct 29)
- Re: [EXTERNAL] Charter DNS servers returning malware filtered IP addresses Livingood, Jason via NANOG (Oct 30)
- Re: [EXTERNAL] Charter DNS servers returning malware filtered IP addresses John R. Levine (Oct 30)
- Re: [EXTERNAL] Charter DNS servers returning malware filtered IP addresses Livingood, Jason via NANOG (Oct 30)
- Re: [EXTERNAL] Charter DNS servers returning malware filtered IP addresses Compton, Rich A (Oct 30)
- Re: [EXTERNAL] Charter DNS servers returning malware filtered IP addresses Owen DeLong via NANOG (Oct 30)
- Re: [EXTERNAL] Charter DNS servers returning malware filtered IP addresses Tim Burke (Oct 30)