Re: Outside plant - prewire customer demarc preference

[Andy Ringsmuth <andy () andyring com>]

That’s exactly what I did. I was able to get a 3/4 conduit from my furnace room/network closet to the exterior of my 
home where utilities enter. It took some doing but I got it in, terminated in a NEMA box.

When we got fiber a few years ago, the installer told me it was the easiest install he’s ever done.

In that conduit I have fiber, coax, one Cat6 and also a sprinkler wire (whomever built my home had sprinklers put in 
the back yard but not the front, but I took care of that oversight).

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Andy Ringsmuth
5609 Harding Drive
Lincoln, NE 68521-5831
(402) 202-1230
andy () andyring com

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> On Nov 27, 2023, at 8:12 AM, Josh Luthman <josh () imaginenetworksllc com> wrote:
>
> If I was building a house I'd just get some 1" conduit from the outside to the inside.  Put it in a NEMA box.  That 
> solves the problem forever.
>
> As a fiber ISP, and assuming you're doing your own WiFi in the house, you can do conduit inside or we can just run 
> the fiber.  We don't want to run up/down walls and such.  99% of our installs are through the exterior wall and then 
> a u6x covers the house.  We run fiber 
>
> If you're in a cableCo area just run coax to get to your modem/router situation.
>
> I'm not sure what the Cat5 is for outside.  Ethernet isn't going to work and DSL is nearly dead already. 
>
> On Fri, Nov 24, 2023 at 2:33 PM Sean Donelan <sean () donelan com> wrote:
> Thanks Brandon Martin,
>
> I agree 1-inch smurf tube is overkill for FTTH. From my quick research 
> into all things FTTH, which I didn't know anything a week ago :-) ...
>
> The regulators in other countries still believe they will create 
> competition.  The 25mm/32mm access duct (I'm going to make up a new 
> term, and just call it "access duct", i.e. that smurf tube, conduit, 
> pathway thing) is big enough for either a fiber microduct, cat 6 copper 
> or RG6 coax.  Even a 12/24/48-volt DC power cable for active 
> equipment at the NID/demarc.  The regulators keep all their competitors 
> happy by not favoring any particular technology.
>
> In practice, the countries with the biggest FTTH deployments have very 
> little FTTH competition at the physical access layer.
>
> Microduct, microduct, microduct is what the dominant access provider 
> wants in those countries.  The dominant carrier wants builders to install 
> "direct fiber" or "bypass fiber" microducts in new construction directly 
> from every dwelling (house or apartment) to the carrier's central access 
> point for the builder's development (apartment buildings or neighborhood).
>
> Microduct only means no pre-built access for other competitors.
>
> Apartment construction in Asia is very large. Several countries are 
> also adding in-building mobile/wireless service requirements for new MDU 
> building construction.
>
>
> My interpretation, not understanding the country-specific FTTH fights...
>
> The regulators appear to say, Ok, dominant carrier - you can have 
> "direct fiber" microduct but builders must also provide an "open 
> competition" 25mm/32mm access duct from the building entrance point (NID) 
> or apartment consolidation points (CP) to the individual distribution box 
> (DD) inside each dwelling.
>
> Just my uninformed take, corrections welcome.