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Re: Starlink routing


From: Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuhnke () gmail com>
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2023 14:33:12 -0800

For the people who have seen their US48 state earth station setups in
person it is pretty normal on the network level. Being colocated with major
inter-city long haul dark fiber DWDM regen sites (Level3 dark fiber path
Seattle to Boise, ID which has a regen hut site in Prosser, WA is a perfect
example) gives them the ability to buy a transport circuit to the nearest
major city/IX point and haul traffic there. I believe they're buying single
100 Gbps waves.


On Mon, Jan 23, 2023 at 2:18 PM Chris J. Ruschmann <chris () scsalaska net>
wrote:

Don’t quote me on this, but I wouldn’t say they are doing anything
different than you or I can do and have access to on the routing layer.
It's probably just Nokia and Arista and whatever those systems provide.
Stuff like Tunneling, ECMP, BFD and VxLan... Think spatially coordinated
Zerotier and not based on latency. They also have a pretty good team of
experts that have experience with large scale networking and automation
they've plucked from various places.

How the Satellites talk to the end users is where all the magic is. But my
understanding is that it's all custom developed networking as code that
handles all the frequency coordination and hand offs with the ground.

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I read in the Economist that the gen of starlink satellites will have the
ability to route messages between each satellite. Would conventional
routing protocols be up to such a challenge? Or would it have to be custom
made for that problem? And since a lot of companies and countries are
getting on that action, it seems like fertile ground for (bad) wheel
reinvention?

Mike



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