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Interesting Ali Express web server behavior...

From: Owen DeLong via NANOG <nanog () nanog org>
Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2023 21:55:31 -0800

So I’m having trouble connecting to the Ali Express web server this evening and decided to investigate a little.

What I found surprised me…

owen@odmbpro3-3 ~ % openssl s_client -connect www.aliexpress.com:443
CONNECTED(00000005)
depth=2 C = US, O = DigiCert Inc, OU = www.digicert.com, CN = DigiCert Global Root CA
verify return:1
depth=1 C = US, O = DigiCert Inc, CN = DigiCert TLS RSA SHA256 2020 CA1
verify return:1
depth=0 C = CN, ST = \E6\B5\99\E6\B1\9F\E7\9C\81, L = \E6\9D\AD\E5\B7\9E\E5\B8\82, O = Alibaba Cloud Computing Ltd., CN 
= ae01.alicdn.com
verify return:1
… certificate stuff, blah blah from Akamai, routine…
SSL-Session:
    Protocol  : TLSv1.3
    Cipher    : AEAD-CHACHA20-POLY1305-SHA256
    Session-ID: 
    Session-ID-ctx: 
    Master-Key: 
    Start Time: 1702187128
    Timeout   : 7200 (sec)
    Verify return code: 0 (ok)
---
read R BLOCK
read R BLOCK
GET / HTTP/1.1
Host: www.aliexpress.com

HTTP/1.1 302 Moved Temporarily
Content-Type: text/html
Content-Length: 258
Location: http://33.3.37.57/
Access-Control-Allow-Origin: https://hz.aliexpress.com
Server: Tengine/Aserver
EagleEye-TraceId: 2103253917021871367418570ec8e3
Strict-Transport-Security: max-age=31536000
Timing-Allow-Origin: *
Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2023 05:45:36 GMT
Connection: keep-alive
Set-Cookie: ali_apache_id=33.3.37.57.1702187136742.612980.2; path=/; domain=.aliexpress.com; expires=Wed, 30-Nov-2084 
01:01:01 GMT
Server-Timing: cdn-cache; desc=MISS
Server-Timing: edge; dur=65
Server-Timing: origin; dur=3
Server-Timing: ak_p; desc="1702187128314_400069768_2521981097_6837_5323_25_43_-";dur=1

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//IETF//DTD HTML 2.0//EN">
<html>
<head><title>302 Found</title></head>
<body bgcolor="white">
<h1>302 Found</h1>
<p>The requested resource resides temporarily under a different URI.</p>
<hr/>Powered by Tengine</body>
</html>
… OK, so far so good, though the hard coded IP redirect is a bit odd. Especially when you consider this:

NetRange:       33.0.0.0 - 33.255.255.255
CIDR:           33.0.0.0/8
NetName:        DISN-IP-LEGACY
NetHandle:      NET-33-0-0-0-1
Parent:          ()
NetType:        Direct Allocation
OriginAS:       
Organization:   DoD Network Information Center (DNIC)
RegDate:        1991-01-01
Updated:        2013-09-11
Ref:            https://rdap.arin.net/registry/ip/33.0.0.0


OrgName:        DoD Network Information Center
OrgId:          DNIC
Address:        3990 E. Broad Street
City:           Columbus
StateProv:      OH
PostalCode:     43218
Country:        US
RegDate:        
Updated:        2011-08-17
Ref:            https://rdap.arin.net/registry/entity/DNIC


OrgTechHandle: REGIS10-ARIN
OrgTechName:   Registration
OrgTechPhone:  +1-844-347-2457 
OrgTechEmail:  disa.columbus.ns.mbx.arin-registrations () mail mil
OrgTechRef:    https://rdap.arin.net/registry/entity/REGIS10-ARIN

OrgAbuseHandle: REGIS10-ARIN
OrgAbuseName:   Registration
OrgAbusePhone:  +1-844-347-2457 
OrgAbuseEmail:  disa.columbus.ns.mbx.arin-registrations () mail mil
OrgAbuseRef:    https://rdap.arin.net/registry/entity/REGIS10-ARIN

OrgTechHandle: MIL-HSTMST-ARIN
OrgTechName:   Network DoD
OrgTechPhone:  +1-844-347-2457 
OrgTechEmail:  disa.columbus.ns.mbx.hostmaster-dod-nic () mail mil
OrgTechRef:    https://rdap.arin.net/registry/entity/MIL-HSTMST-ARIN

Which seems in line with the announcement of that address I’m seeing:

owen@delong-fmt2-mx-01> show route 33.3.37.57 

inet.0: 947480 destinations, 2018685 routes (947480 active, 0 holddown, 0 hidden)
+ = Active Route, - = Last Active, * = Both

33.0.0.0/8         *[BGP/170] 1w6d 05:39:58, localpref 2000
                      AS path: 6939 3356 749 I, validation-state: unverified
                    >  to 64.71.131.26 via ge-2/0/0.0
                    [BGP/170] 1w6d 05:35:29, localpref 100, from 192.124.40.252
                      AS path: 36236 2914 3356 749 I, validation-state: unverified
                    >  via gr-2/3/0.70

(AS749 is also DISA/DDI)

But why would AliExpress be redirecting to DDN space? Is this legitimate? Ali hoping to get away with squatting, or 
something else?

Owen

Current thread:

Interesting Ali Express web server behavior... Owen DeLong via NANOG (Dec 09)
- Re: Interesting Ali Express web server behavior... Stephane Bortzmeyer (Dec 09)
  - Re: Interesting Ali Express web server behavior... Mike Lyon (Dec 09)
    - Re: Interesting Ali Express web server behavior... Owen DeLong via NANOG (Dec 10)
  - Re: Interesting Ali Express web server behavior... Jon Lewis (Dec 10)
- Re: Interesting Ali Express web server behavior... Sabri Berisha (Dec 09)
  - Re: Interesting Ali Express web server behavior... Christopher Hawker (Dec 10)
    - Re: Interesting Ali Express web server behavior... William Herrin (Dec 10)
    - Message not available
    - Re: Interesting Ali Express web server behavior... Giorgio Bonfiglio via NANOG (Dec 10)
    - Re: Interesting Ali Express web server behavior... Owen DeLong via NANOG (Dec 10)
    - Re: Interesting Ali Express web server behavior... Sabri Berisha (Dec 11)

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