Re: Hawaiian ILEC infrastructure and fire

[Ilissa Miller <ilissa () imillerpr com>]

Hi all - I've also asked the Nomad Futurist Foundation for sources for
help.  Here are a few if you are interested.  There will also be a number
of initiatives to help with goods/services donations which would be great.
Hope these help too:

Maui Food Bank:  https://mauifoodbank.org/
Maui Humane Society:
https://www.mauihumanesociety.org/donate-olx/?formID=mainButton
Hawaii Community Foundation:
https://www.hawaiicommunityfoundation.org/maui-strong

Thank you for all of the interest and support as rebuild efforts get
underway, Hawaii will need this industry.

-Ilissa


On Thu, Aug 17, 2023 at 2:18 PM scott via NANOG <nanog () nanog org> wrote:

> I missed some of the below yesterday.
>
>
> "Though I am curious about the Paniolo cable landing in Lahaina. Did it
> survive"
>
> I believe a land section of the Paniolo cable was not burned and I think
> that's what they used.  Perhaps it was actually the undersea part and I
> just don't have access to that data.  One thing I do know is the Paniolo
> cable is what allowed us to get the MPLS node back to the core so
> quickly.  I feel pretty confident the CLS survived, but I have no actual
> data on that.
>
>
>
> "HICS and HIFN land in Kihei instead, right?"
>
> Yes, but there was a second fire in the Kula area (a 1.5 hour drive from
> Lahaina with no traffic) that was headed towards Kihei.  I think they
> stopped it, but it was the same thing.  Homes burnt to the ground and a
> LOT of fiber was burned up in Kula (1500-3500 feet above sea level).
>
>
>
> "you would think they had microwave backup at minimum."
>
> There is not very much microwave here.  There're issues with land and
> microwave tower rights on an island that size in addition to the
> geography which makes that an expensive alternative.  HT has some m/w on
> the tops of the mountains, but no other companies that I am aware of can
> get that done.
>
>
>
> "I'm sure a few cells burned but there are over ten on the west side so
> they didn't all burn."
>
> I am not sure how that works, but many of the cell sites are/were on
> buildings and such; not on towers.
>
>
>
> "Feet on the ground are reporting they brought in at least a few COWS
> (cellular on wheels/portable cell site trucks)"
>
> Yes, they did that with satellite back to their core.
>
> scott
>
>
>
> On 8/17/23 5:55 PM, TJ Trout wrote:
> > I'm familiar with the island, it's it's puzzling that the major 3 cell
> > carriers would accept a single point of failure like that, you would
> > think they had microwave backup at minimum. Maybe it was a generator
> issue.
> > I'm sure a few cells burned but there are over ten on the west side so
> > they didn't all burn.
> >
> > Feet on the ground are reporting they brought in at least a few COWS
> > (cellular on wheels/portable cell site trucks)
> >
> > On Thu, Aug 17, 2023, 12:53 AM William Herrin <bill () herrin us
> > <mailto:bill () herrin us>> wrote:
> >
> >     On Wed, Aug 16, 2023 at 6:43 PM scott via NANOG <nanog () nanog org
> >     <mailto:nanog () nanog org>> wrote:
> >      > Last, it's an island and diverse paths are
> >      > short in number.
> >
> >     To put it into perspective: there are exactly TWO roads that can get
> >     you from Lahaina back to Kahului and the airport. One of them is a
> >     narrow, cliff-hugging single lane road that is more or less paved.
> >
> >     Though I am curious about the Paniolo cable landing in Lahaina. Did
> it
> >     survive? HICS and HIFN land in Kihei instead, right?
> >
> >     Regards,
> >     Bill Herrin
> >
> >
> >
> >     --
> >     William Herrin
> >     bill () herrin us <mailto:bill () herrin us>
> >     https://bill.herrin.us/ <https://bill.herrin.us/>


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