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Re: Hawaiian ILEC infrastructure and fire


From: scott via NANOG <nanog () nanog org>
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2023 01:43:39 +0000



On 8/16/23 3:58 AM, TJ Trout wrote:
I found it interesting that *all*? cellular service on west maui died? Does every carrier single-home via waves served out of the Lahaina CO? Or maybe they aren't allowed to have generators in Maui? Seems like they would have diverse paths to major sites
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Many do mobile backhaul over various providers, including Hawaiian Telcom. We do that over MPLS. The Lahaina CO is an HT property and we maintain the stuff that kept it relatively safe; air handlers, filters, generators, battery banks, etc. All fiber was gone. The fire was intense due to the wind speed. There was a hurricane near the islands. Likely, even the cell towers were melted. I cannot speak to what the cell folks have in place. Last, it's an island and diverse paths are short in number.

scott









On Tue, Aug 15, 2023 at 6:55 PM scott <surfer () mauigateway com <mailto:surfer () mauigateway com>> wrote:



     > On Tue, Aug 15, 2023, 5:21 PM scott via NANOG <nanog () nanog org
    <mailto:nanog () nanog org>
     >
     >     On 8/11/23 4:06 AM, Mark Tinka wrote:
     >      > It's like a war zone.
     >
     >     Yes, it definitely looks like that. We have connectivity to
    some of the
     >     edges and have put up hotspots, so folks can go to the
    hotspot areas
     >     and
     >     get internet access.


    On 8/16/23 12:39 AM, TJ Trout wrote:

      > Scott: Just an FYI that anecdotal reports from social media
    coming in or
      > stating that residents have been unable to connect to the Wi-Fi
    hotspots
      > that the local government have been promoting in the Lahaina area.
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    I don't have anything to do with that as I work in the core and we got
    the node up for west Maui, so I am done. (:  But I wonder if those are
    different wifis.  I'd imagine the focus now is plant poles, hang fiber
    and get the Access part of the network fully up before getting those
    up,
    if they're the same ones.

    scott



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