Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers

[Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuhnke () gmail com>]

This is going to be very painful and difficult for a number of DOCSIS3
operators, including some of the largest ISPs in the USA with
multi-millions of subscribers with tons of legacy coax plant that have no
intention of ever changing the RF channel setup and downstream/upstream
asymmetric bandwidth allocation to provide more than 15-20Mbps upstream per
home.





On Thu, 26 May 2022 at 16:59, Jeff Shultz <jeffshultz () sctcweb com> wrote:

> I think we have a winner here - we don't necessarily need 1G down, but we
> do need to get the upload speeds up to symmetrical 50/50, 100/100 etc...
> there are enough people putting in HD security cameras and the like that
> upstream speeds are beginning to be an issue.
>
> On Tue, May 24, 2022 at 4:37 AM David Bass <davidbass570 () gmail com> wrote:
>
> > The real problem most users experience isn’t that they have a gig, or
> > even 100Mb of available download bandwidth…it’s that they infrequently are
> > able to use that full bandwidth due to massive over subscription .
> >
> > The other issue is the minimal upload speed.  It’s fairly easy to consume
> > the 10Mb that you’re typically getting as a residential customer.  Even
> > “business class” broadband service has a pretty poor upload bandwidth
> > limit.
> >
> > We are a pretty high usage family, and 100/10 has been adequate, but
> > there’s been times when we are pegged at the 10 Mb upload limit, and we
> > start to see issues.
> >
> > I’d say 25/5 is a minimum for a single person.
> >
> > Would 1 gig be nice…yeah as long as the upload speed is dramatically
> > increased as part of that.  We would rarely use it, but that would likely
> > be sufficient for a long time.  I wouldn’t pay for the extra at this point
> > though.
> >
> > On Mon, May 23, 2022 at 8:20 PM Sean Donelan <sean () donelan com> wrote:
> >
> > > Remember, this rulemaking is for 1.1 million locations with the "worst"
> > > return on investment. The end of the tail of the long tail.  Rural and
> > > tribal locations which aren't profitable to provide higher speed
> > > broadband.
> > >
> > > These locations have very low customer density, and difficult to serve.
> > >
> > > After the Sandwich Isles Communications scandal, gold-plated proposals
> > > will be viewed with skepticism.  While a proposal may have a lower total
> > > cost of ownership over decades, the business case is the cheapest for
> > > the first 10 years of subsidies.  [massive over-simplification]
> > >
> > > Historically, these projects have lack of timely completion (abandoned,
> > > incomplete), and bad (overly optimistic?) budgeting.
>
> --
> Jeff Shultz
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