Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers

[Owen DeLong via NANOG <nanog () nanog org>]

I think a gig is not an unreasonable target… It’s 100Mbps plus adequate headroom for the likely oversubscription models 
and the occasional downloads that are modern day reality.

Nobody is going to consistently use 1Gbps, but the difference in wire time for a large download between 100Mbps and 
1Gbps is significant.

Making 1Gbps available in today’s network technology isn’t significantly harder nor is it any more expensive than 
making 100Mbps available when you consider oversubscribed bandwidth which is inherent in today’s residential models.

I’m not so unreasonable as to suggest dedicated gig CIR everywhere, but something close to 100Mbps CIR with 1G 
burstability isn’t an unreasonable target IMHO.

Anything over 1G gets more complicated and more expensive with available technology today, though that silly 2.5G stuff 
is not unlikely to gain traction in the residential aren in the near future.

10G or 40G are pretty absurd because the average residence can’t possible make realistic use of it… Most residences 
have a 1G bottle neck to the modem.

Owen


> On May 23, 2022, at 15:39 , Michael Thomas <mike () mtcc com> wrote:
>
>
> On 5/23/22 3:26 PM, Owen DeLong wrote:
> > Is it?
> >
> > What’s the bandwidth of a good quality 4K stream? What about 4 of them + various additional interactive 
> > technologies, software downloads, media downloads, etc.?
> >
> > Looking at the graphs, my household (which isn’t average by any stretch of the imagination, but it is a household) 
> > doesn’t need a gig very often, but there are the occasional multiple hours where my Gig downstream does flatline at 
> > about 950Mbps.
> >
> > So I’d say that I make sufficiently frequent use of the gig that is available as to render it unlikely I would be 
> > satisfied with less bandwidth.
> If you're going to use downloads as the benchmark, what about 10G or 40G as the baseline? I mean, that's an 
> unwinnable treadmill.
>
> But from my reading about 25Mbs is just on the edge of being ok with 4k. Certainly 100Mbs would be fine for multiple 
> streams.
>
> Mike